Here's a link to an interesting abovetopsecret.com thread from a year ago entitled "What Are The Masonic Secrets?" I was Freight Tomsen before being repeatedly IP banned. My posts start near the bottom of page 2 here:
What Are The Masonic Secrets?
You will notice how I am treated by the moderators of the forum. Not like a fellow conspiracy researcher, but like a voice that must be quelled, distorted, and refuted. I also wanted to repost another article I wrote many months ago entitled: "Above Above Top Secret.com"
Above Above Top Secret.com
Above Top Secret.com, the biggest conspiracy forum on the internet, is an information gathering/disinformation spreading tool controlled by Masons.
While this statement may seem laughable at first, let's delve into the reasons why I would say so. You would think a "conspiracy theory" website like (www.abovetopsecret.com) would welcome information such as that presented in my free books, The Atlantean Conspiracy and Famous Freemasons Exposed. You would think that a site dedicated to providing a forum for fellow conspiracy researchers to network, would love to have me as a contributing member, would you not?
So why, just hours after posting my best thread ever, did "Springer" one of the site owners, ban me and my IP from ever posting on ATS again? The reason is my information is far too powerful and influential to allow the masses to get ahold of. Here is the thread I posted that got me banned - "The Will I Am Legend" a post exposing Freemasonry in Hollywood. I was "Freight Tomsen" the OP.
The Will-I-Am Legend
You'll notice that they deleted my opening two posts and many subsequent posts claiming "Meta-tag spamming" which is completely false/unfounded. Springer gave me 5 unwarranted "warnings" regarding some random month-old posts, removed my avatar, moved my thread to "Skunk Works" then banned me from ever posting again without giving so much as an explanation.
Yesterday I made a new Screen Name from a different IP to post my new FREE book, "Famous Freemasons Exposed." My thread was deleted and my new Screen Name was banned within 5 minutes! Why do you suppose Springer and "the Three Amigos" (the site owners' Masonic name for themselves) don't want me on ATS? If they created ATS as a place for conspiracy theorists/researchers like myself to network with others, then why I am repeatedly banned for posting excellent material?
If you have spent any time on ATS (abovetopsecret.com) especially in their "Secret Societies" forum, you will notice that there is a troop of Masons (much like Digg.com's Bury Brigade) who are online ALL day EVERY day. Many of them openly admit to being Masons. Even many of the Site Moderators like Mirthful Me, Skyfloating, and other popular ATS names admit to being Masons! Not only this but they are perpetually online 1) providing a "benevolent"/open face for their secret society, and 2) constantly defending government/establishment positions and their "Brotherhood." I can tell you if I owned ATS, I would not have a troop of admitted Mason Moderators running things - any conspiracy researcher will tell you that Freemasonry is one of the biggest vehicles in implementing the New World Order conspiracy!
If you don't believe me about ATS being Mason-run, try this experiment: Take 10-20 photos of celebrities/politicians making the Masonic "M" hand sign from my "Famous Freemasons Exposed" book. Post a thread on ATS with these and watch what happens! You will either be instantly censored, or the Masonic hounds will immediately descend upon you and detract, denounce, and disrespect you in every possible way. Is this how my research should be received by a "conspiracy theory" forum?
Sunday, April 12, 2009
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I am aware that masons infiltrate every group or organisation. From far-left, to far-right, to conserative-patriot movements, to radical conspiracy theoretical organisations. Sorry to hear about that. It's good information for newbies.
Hey Eric, thanks for the heads up!! Seems like they're into everything anymore..
By the way, I really enjoy your blog/ebooks. Keep up the great work.
You got bounced because you created multiple screen names and were spamming the board, end of story. By the way your research is trash that's why you get smacked down each and every time you post on ATS. I also believe that Joe and Mia who posted here are new IDs that you created to make it look as though someone actually believes your junk research.
I've never created multiple screen names nor spammed their board, but thanks for your retarded opinion. Much appreciated
~Eric
anonymous, I smell something corrupt in you. No way am I Eric Dubay. You can't prove it. And, my writing style is completely different from Eric's.
You are a troll, and a bad one at that.
First of all, finding pictures of celebrities making handsigns does not consist of research. This kind of evidence, frankly, is not suited to a rational discussion. If you take enough pictures of someone (and celebrities are photographed constantly), in some portion of them, they will probably be making some weird hand sign or expression. It's not indicative of a conspiracy, it's just what happens when you take enough freeze frames of a person in motion. Hell, I'm sure it's happened to you too.
Second, your posts as Freight Tomson could certainly be considered spam. You made many posts back-to-back along your own determined narrative, usually restating things you had already said, denouncing people you were arguing with, or going off on a tangent.
Third, if the people at ATS were actually trying to bury your research, why on earth would they only delete some of your posts? It would be just as easy and far more effective to delete them all - and I'm pretty sure you can delete posts without leaving any suspicious "this post has been deleted" flags too. Thier actions are not in line with the motivations you're assigning to them.
Fourth, your statement that they should like to have your research on thier site makes the assumption that your research is respectable, new, and valid, which as I'm sure you can tell from the many people disagreeing with you, is up for debate. Quoting statements from not-so-credible (in most peoples' eyes, I know you disagree) sources like you do in your book is not going to get you anywhere. You will have to establish the reliability of your sources first.
Mr. Mandal, I'm aware that not every celebrity seen making a Masonic hand sign is knowledgeable of what they are doing. However, the signs and symbols in my book are Masonic, there are books about them published by defunked Masons (i.e. Robinson, who was murdered for doing so) and non-Mason researchers alike. My dad has even been asked what Masonic lodge he was in after playfully waving the "M" hand-sign at a workmate. So the REAL issue here is that these are indeed Masonic hand-signs.
Now on a case by case basis, we cannot know that each person photographed making such a sign is doing so intentionally. However, we do know that Cecil B. DeMille, director of the very first Hollywood film and creative genius behind Paramount Pictures, was a Freemason. Jack Warner of Warner Bros. Studios and Darryl Zanuck, co-founder of 20th Century Productions, and Louis B. Mayer, of MGM movie studios are/were all Masons. Duke Ellington, Count Basie, Nat ‘King’ Cole, Rudyard Kipling, Harry Houdini, Alexander Pope, Goethe, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Sir Walter Scott, Jonathan Swift, Voltaire, Mark Twain, Oscar Wilde, W.C. Fields, Clark Gable, Arthur C. Clarke, Frank Holliday, Humphrey Bogart, Peter Sellers, Red Skelton, Bob Hope, Abbott of Abbott and Costello, John Wayne, Richard Pryor, Roy Rogers, Will Rogers, Don Rickles and many more famous folks are admitted Masons.
Masonic symbols are so blatant throughout Hollywood productions that we are ignorant to ignore them. And I'm not saying there's a conspiracy of actors... Masonry is just a secret society which pulls in and elevates people who will benefit the organization, and most "superstars" are likely only low-level initiates... not on a level to know the whole agenda, just enough to know about flashing hand-signs and special hand-shakes with their Masonic colleagues and fans.
What myself and others are doing IS in fact "research" but I respect your right to belittle me and my activism. I'm sure you don't consider this "activism" either because you think I'm some paranoid loser out to get my Internet 15 minutes. It's all good though, man. Keep doing your thing, I'll keep doing mine, and the Truth will remain self-evident.
I'm not specifically attempting to belittle you, I'm just pointing out that you should understand what you're doing. You are never going to be taken seriously if the evidence you present is a Google Images search for "Masonic Hand Signs." No one is really going to consider that kind of argument.
If you want to be taken seriously, you have to make people think that you are credible; you need to make several changes in your tactics in order to accomplish this. Things like a bunch of Masonic hand sign pictures make you seem less credible - it's completely anecdotal evidence that will not be taken seriously.
Quoting people who are generally regarded as nutcases will also make you seem less credible. It's entirely possible that Alex Jones is a fantastic source, but if people think he's a crackpot, you shouldn't quote him.
Again, I don't mean to belittle you, I've just noticed a pattern of you shooting yourself in the foot. You have to think about how you sound to a skeptical person, not how you sound to the people who frequently agree with you on your blog (sorry guys), because they already think you're right.
Cool, I appreciate the advice and understand how much of my information or Alex Jones' information can come across to a skeptic. And it's great for people to be skeptical and use critical reasoning... I didn't just leap to my current understanding by forgoing skepticism and critical reasoning, I maintain my analytical faculties throughout all of my "research" (in quotes for your benefit :P)
But you say, "if people think Alex Jones is a crackpot, you shouldn't quote him." And this is the line of reasoning I can't agree with. I have taken the time to personally verify Alex Jones' claims, and I now know that he is NOT a crackpot, as you put it. But hey, just like yourself, I heard him for the first time a few years ago and thought, "this guy's either a crazy or a political genius" ... the difference is I took the time to "research" everything he said. And by doing so I verified all his "research," and compiled my own "research" into a couple books.
So anyway, have you seen The Obama Deception yet? It's Jones' latest and I'd say best documentary. Type it into YouTube and let me know what you think of it. Peace
PLEASE IF YOU have not seen this film PLEASE Look at :
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
O IN GOOLE VIDEOS
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=zeitgeist+the+movie&emb=0&aq=-1&oq=#
VERY GOOD THAT THERE DISCUSION
BUT DO NOT FORGET THE PURPOSE
you can reach the same point.
Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free
Passage Lookup: John 8:32
TKS
ALEX
Hey Eric - Fetch here. I agree with your assessment and received the same treatment. My work was exceptionally well received by the audience with some of my articles being in their top lists at the Secret Societies forum.
ATS is another of those operations that are controlled by trolls - in this case, sadly for the good people in the Craft - lower educated buffoons who call themselves "Masons".
The complete moral abyss exhibited by so many Masons can only be attributed to its influence by Jewish ethics, imo -
A system which brought the West much liberty is now being over-run by those groups who have always believed that totalitarianism to their sadist "sky god" is the way to human redemption.
This anonymous moron is just another of those anonymous cowards who lie because he has no morals nor ethics.
A regular freak show in a museum under normal conditions - the rise of the freaks and cowards has become the norm -
It is what Noahidist Masonry is all about.
Thanks for the comments Fetch and Seven Star Hand. SSH: I read a couple dozen of your articles and they are very informative - your assessment and explanations of symbology are very thorough and fascinating. Some of your comments here came across a bit presumptuous and arrogant, but I forgive your tone. :P I don't think your research and mine are in any opposition to each other but seem quite complementary. Anyway, you're welcome to post your opinions and criticisms, we're all in this together. Peace
~Eric
Yeah, I saw the Obama Deception when you posted it. I think Alex Jones suffers from a similar problem; some of his information actually is scary, but when you watch the video, he really just looks like a nutcase. Yelling at passing cars with a bullhorn is a terrible way to build credibility. It also provides an argument against him: if he's right and there is this malicious conspiracy, surely they would have acted against him somehow. The video also has a very perceptible "feel" of propaganda rather than of a documentary.
As far as quoting Alex Jones, I don't argue against his facts so much as the impression people have of him. If you have independently verified his claims, you should probably quote your own sources and research rather than quoting Mr. Jones. Frankly, just seeing his name on a quote probably signals 90% of people to stop reading. Quote people who don't have such an obvious agenda and who don't seem so crazy in the public eye.
Seven Star Hand,
Welcome back.
I have a question.
It appears that much of what occurs along the path of history...or time...is cyclical. Birth/death...rise and fall of civilization...the orbits of planets...sunspot activity...precession of the equinox...the revolutions of galaxies...etc.
One of the cycles here on Earth seems to be the regular global devastation seen in the geologic record as sometimes a pole shift, sometimes a comet or asteroid strike, sometimes a solar storm or other electromagnetic pulse-type event originating from outside the solar system.
From a prophetic viewpoint, this destructive cycle appears to coincide with the length of time it takes for humankind to dust itself off from the last event, spread out across the globe again, and then to become a degraded and pitiful group of lost, blind, greedy, ignorant and hopeless beings.
In your view, was the universe created with these coinciding cycles to put the destructive event at a point where if humanity has not reached a particular goal of wisdom, it's better to wipe the slate clean and have another fresh go at it?
So if mankind gets it wrong, prophecies are less difficult to make if one knows that the wrong path unfolds on a regularity that allows one to know what type of human behavior to expect toward the end and what type of astronomical events will also be occurring?
Very good point, I have actually rolled that one around my head a few times before with no solid conclusion. Do you think that's the case? It certainly seems plausible to me.
~Eric
Well, the biblical prophecy for the "end times" says, "And as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man."
The "days of the Son of man" is a reference to the next global catastrophe. With other references to war and rumors of war meaning that humans haven't been able to properly cooperate. By saying "war" means there's already war(s) going on and "rumors of war" would mean there's other areas on Earth that aren't involved in the current state of war but could get involved with the current war(s) or entirely unrelated war(s) cropping up. So the whole world would pretty much need to be widely populated and communication throughout would be necessary. So no, or very few, populated areas would be isolated from the world.
During the period of the Roman Empire and into the Middle Ages there was still a lot of isolated areas so the "war AND rumors of war" scenario wouldn't quite fit then. It would take the whole world to be connected by largescale communication to get there. That would mean technology would be rather advanced.
Then, with Noah, nobody paid any attention to his warnings so hubris was more than just the norm, it was all encompassing. A lot like it has recently been becoming.
All this prophecy stuff ends up making reference to past markers and saying to watch for those markers again.
So it seems that once mankind gets to a certain point of global "dominion" (for lack of a better word), and if we're not in full cooperation and also have our collective head up our ass, we don't see what's coming because we're too busy watching reality TV and killing each other.
Now if it takes roughly 2500 or 3000 years to get to this point technologically and socially and it also takes that long between catastrophic events, it might be that there's a timing mechanism built into our collective consciousness that causes us to freak out as the catastrophe approaches without us even being aware of what's causing us to freak out. That would be something to overcome before the timer goes off.
The PTB running the secret societies and shadow government are apparently freaking out in a major way over the last 100 years so that would be a clue about when the timer in our collective consciousness goes off in the cycle. It might also suggest that this time around...it's too late to turn things around. Not enough time to build a global movement toward focusing on a large scale avoidance plan because there's already too much freaking out going on.
Maybe people during previous cycles were able to get it together. It's possible that part of the UFO phenomenon is evidence of that...survivors who had cooperated well enough to organize technology to get out of harms way.
Many crop circles appear to reference large scale future events aimed at Earth.
And then you have the Sphinx which more people are realizing is from a time before the last catastrophe. Part of the intent of building something in an attempt for permanence may have been to show those in the next cycle that they should ask certain questions....like, "Where did the builders go and why?" and, "Maybe what removed them from the scene will reoccur and shouldn't we get our shit together about that?"
Maybe somebody on the planet should start a big timecapsule project cataloguing celestial events for the last 2500 or 3000 years and how humans are screwing it up this cycle....and shoot for permanence and easy locatability somehow. Cuz if the PTB are as technologically advanced in secret as it sometimes appears they are, if they're far enough along to help themselves they don't seem to be interested in helping anybody else...a timecapsule project might be a way the rest of us can help somebody....3000 years from now.
Too much rolling around in the head for me. ciao
I'm right there with you pondering these thoughts. Thanks for the great posts, your angle on these issues is very helpful and constructive.
ats is many things, but mostly they are greedy pigs who care nothing about conspiracy theory or conspiracy theorists, all they care about is $.
even now, over the past 12 months they have deliberately targeted a number of (smaller) conspiracy websites with DMCA notices or threats of legal action.
they do not wish to be a part of the Conspiracy community, they wish to destroy it and have control of the market, whether it is because they are affiliated with masons, the nwo, the govt or are just ignorant selfish pieces of shit is moot.
support your smaller conspiracy communities.
here's a few.
www.amkon.net
www.webanarchy.net
www.warriormatrix.com
ATS is the Walmart of Conspiracy Forums.
ATS is a freemasonry's Mind Control tool, use to spread propaganda to protect and defend the cult of masonry.
Freemasonry massly infiltrated ATS to corrupt it, at a point that now, freemasons and freemason MODS totally control the secret society forums.
ATS is use to brainwash non-masons and spread lies to manipulate conspiracy theorists.
great site, i just find this site because someone talked about it at abovetopsecret.com.
Owned and Operated by Mason, hey..
that really could make sense.
many threads which freemasons spread positive propaganda about freemasonry are not close even if they brakes all the ats rules, terms and conditions.
if i talk about this at ats, i am sure my post will be delete. LOL
oh well, ats is not the only conspiracy site anyway...
For a laugh you can go and read ABOUT section on ATS....here is just a jewel..."we deny ignorance" indeed you do...
it is so easy to picture them putting names of fictional members and posting nonsense poorly pretending to have a debate of some sort...pathethic.
Dude! exactly the same thing happened to me. The first thread I tried to start was around the time of the banker bailout in which I basically implied the country was being controlled by the illuminati.
My post was deleted immediately and I was banned by " Mirthful me" (I think) - he had a mason sign on his profile pic.
I asked him what I'd done wrong (very politely) and never got a reply.
I also tried to message Sceptic Overlord with the same question and never got a reply.
This did not leave a good taste in my mouth about above top secret, in fact I've never experienced such censorship before on the internet!
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