tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post2593973980834542380..comments2024-03-07T10:02:32.188-08:00Comments on The Atlantean Conspiracy: The End of IckeEric Dubayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11495527904246265068noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-32716998075548439742013-03-18T15:38:11.548-07:002013-03-18T15:38:11.548-07:00People (personified idea), you MUST come out of th...People (personified idea), you MUST come out of the Don Quixote mode, and STOP "fighting" the enemy on the "outside".<br /><br />Ignorance is the transgression that kills, and the POINT for our physical existence is TO OVERCOME DEATH (by said ignorance). NO ONE one the "outside" will supersede your ignorance with wisdom (lit. White Field; error-FREE virgin-realm) for you!furyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03426177641611858096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-47608195897165566692012-06-16T00:12:52.377-07:002012-06-16T00:12:52.377-07:00Well, My Names dimart and I am an Easter bunny fro...Well, My Names dimart and I am an Easter bunny from neptune.. I like david because he invented the chocolate shake the one we all love So very much today... Hes very good at making things exist like Santa Clause or The mighty Boosh... They all came about because of his oh almighty teachings and helping rewrite history for a bunch of fairy following Slaves and Quantum Wooly Jumpers... He has a Mouth that suck eggs as far as proof is concerned... WAKE UP YOUR ALL ROUND THE TWIST! ( Someone Give Me Strength!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-43453282582472599752012-06-15T22:35:33.126-07:002012-06-15T22:35:33.126-07:00Hi, I recently been approached by the alluminati. ...Hi, I recently been approached by the alluminati. They shook hands with me and tried to make me join. The hands shakes can be quite terrible. Subjected to them They want me to join them. You are might be right about David. I recently when into the matrix and took a look around. The handshake let you into the void for a day or two, the chemical from these hand shakes can be send anybody whom is not strong totally mad. I even found myself wanting to pass this information on as a some kind of profit to my friends. In that time I met David in the matrix and his other people that can access it. They are very powerful and they correct about of things. They understand that this world has been badly designed people whom create, like myself because Im no-one... The Alluminati are ever growing through the new youth, the new smarts. The Alluminati can hold you quiet and they can control you... I know a lot more members from this experience & They really only wanted to help me but I can't join a cult! I would join the Matrix and am very welcome to visit should this world carryon failing me and everyone I know. I have collected enough information, from this experience to get out alive. They like me but put a stop to it all. I don't think I can but Im safe from it all. What davids doing is evil because he is creating the a loop in the Matrix, so the Lizard stay alive. They don't exist in this dimension yet but seeds have been planted to make us bring them back. I have been thinking of a way to put a stop to all this frightening business. The power should not be given to the lizards and the doctor who does there work and from their dimension control because they don't talk we can't hear them so we don't know what they're capable of or whom they are! in this world & they are in control at the top making us all really unhappy but they have been for years, thats the truth friend. Magie Thatcher was the initial seed distributor, same fear is built into us from the end of the Sixties and it got some great people killed. If I was to name anyone I would be killed too. As it is my friend, they have been very good to me. Im telling you all this just to warn you... Don't draw attention because your doing everything David is doing on Making people think that theres anything in this Lizard rubbish, you not helping at all and best way to help is to burn all this an mock it... take the piss because that's how I survive and still and I am lucky to be sane. Do not publish this message from me the loop would get bigger... My Name is Daniel Astro Day Im only trying to help... The handshake made me feel like a god and I have learned a lot enough to maybe save the world if need be. Im working on it... thank you..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-32757225313219110372012-01-11T03:36:52.202-08:002012-01-11T03:36:52.202-08:00Having read most of Ickes books and frequenting hi...Having read most of Ickes books and frequenting his forum regularly I really don't think is is an 'illuminati witch'. He has bad arthritis which may account for certain dodgy looking hand gestures, his ex wife is, well - 'ex' which suggests that he didn't agree with her views on things, of course his books are going to be full of symbolism - he's trying to expose it and make people aware of it, and surely the recent 3 or 4 UK mainstream media 'hit pieces' regurgitating the same old 'son of god' and 'lizard queen' tripe suggest he's not controlled opposition. His message is fundamentally a positive one...Illuminati Agendahttp://www.iluminatiagenda.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-24314842142633744302011-12-19T09:11:06.507-08:002011-12-19T09:11:06.507-08:00Nice work on David Icke I suspected but wasn't...Nice work on David Icke I suspected but wasn't really sure. Alex Jones is another... I trusted my instincts and finally found ties to the Jesuit order. I have come to the same conclusions as many others have... that anyone still breathing putting out the amount and the kind of information that the two of them are, are there to serve a purpose. Fear is the best weapon for the less than 1 % PeaceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-59851696807532022522011-12-13T20:47:11.719-08:002011-12-13T20:47:11.719-08:00Alas, I think Eric Hufschmid may also be an disinf...Alas, I think Eric Hufschmid may also be an disinfo agent--after I read his take on NATO that it was somehow innocent on taking down Libya--and this I just found:<br /><br />http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5580&p=21812Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-17998674059580894232011-12-11T22:40:04.544-08:002011-12-11T22:40:04.544-08:00Let's hope you're right Ali.Let's hope you're right Ali.Eric Dubayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11495527904246265068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-32174364770546653622011-12-11T21:24:44.448-08:002011-12-11T21:24:44.448-08:00Hello again..so reading the comments again it only...Hello again..so reading the comments again it only goes further to confuse me.. so Eric u say that David (i'm not standing up for Alex Jones, he freaks me out) is controlled and that's why his going far and perhaps others u named were killed etc because they weren't and you urself been opted and threatened etc..well if these 'powerful' ppl got rid of those guys why not just shut you down as well? why keep u online etc why give u a voice? perhaps somethings are out of their hands and David and Alex's success has protected them ... and urself.. times have changed and ppl are just more aware and harder to get rid of..Ali Snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-74011251168105856712011-12-11T08:25:37.463-08:002011-12-11T08:25:37.463-08:00Hi, Eric.
I admit that I don't truly understa...Hi, Eric.<br /><br />I admit that I don't truly understand the motivations behind the actions of David Icke or Alex Jones. I don't know them that well. I suspect that they're both intelligent, delusional,well-meaning, and a bit paranoid. Perhaps, we all are to some extent.<br /><br />I believe that, when dealing with extremely powerful people, all opposition is controlled or sought to be once it reaches a certain point. This could be done in so many different ways: <br /><br />Psy-ops. This could include everything from feeding you false intel to slipping you LSD and convincing you that you're a reptilian via hypnotherapy to vaguely threatening to kidnap and sell your children into slavery. Whatever suits your personality best, which would be very well-known beforehand, of course.<br /><br />Money. I could offer you a lot while simultaneously threatening that all you have will be taken from you if you don't accept it.. I'd get my favors from you later. Too much integrity? I could arrange for someone to sue the sh#* out of you then offer to "help" with your legal bills. Or I could just buy off everyone around you! I could insert friends, business contacts, and even lovers into your life and arrange your life however I see fit. Etc.<br /><br />Death. If someone wants you gone and they have enough money, power, and intelligence.. Bye bye.<br /><br />Etc... we could go on and on.<br /><br />So, do I believe that Alex Jones and David Icke are controlled opposition? Maybe. <br /><br />If they're controlled I doubt they know about it. Why? Because it would be more effective that way. Better to just feed them fake intel, convince them it's real, and let them mix it in with their real facts, for example.<br /><br />And though I'm no genius, I'm smart enough to recognize the relevant pieces of information they provide and ignore the rest. They don't do me any harm. But I imagine if someone is already mentally unstable, paranoid, or gullible, listening to Icke and Jones will only make them worse.<br /><br />DavidDavidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-37135177372472506382011-12-11T00:30:28.275-08:002011-12-11T00:30:28.275-08:00I mean for someone working for the "Illuminat...<i>I mean for someone working for the "Illuminati trillionaires" it seems like he would be better compensated.</i><br /><br />He travels all over the world constantly giving 9-hour hypnotic lectures, does many radio and TV spots, somehow comes out with a book per year, and his gut just keeps expanding. He was a pro soccer goalie, then a BBC reporter, then head of the Green party, now a best-selling author and speaker "against" the establishment?? How much more establishment can you get than BBC? If I wanted to go on the Wogan show and say "I'm the son of the Godhead" wearing a purple tracksuit, they would never let me on! He was just on the History Channel and in the Thrive movie too, if he's such a danger to the establishment, why do they always let him on TV? Why has David had a golden baton leading him from professional sports, to mainstream media, to politics, to best-selling authordom? Isn't such high-level versatility usually only granted to Masons, Zionists, and other "chosen" ones? <br /><br /><i>He's expressed financial issues because of court costs and people trying to sue him and what not.. It just doesn't seem right.</i><br /><br />Shill Alex Jones does yearly "money-bombs" bringing in over half a million dollars a day. Shill Charlie Veitch is constantly asking for donations. What are all these lawsuits that David needs this extra money for? They don't seem to have any problem quickly throwing Schaeffer Cox, Fritz Springmeier, or Irwin Schiff in jail on completely false, trumped-up charges. David is far more influential than those 3, so why isn't he or Alex Jones in jail for years on fake allegations?<br /><br /><i>But if I'm open to your hollow earth theory and your stationary earth theory I suppose I should be open to the possibility of a hollow moon too</i><br /><br />I don't pretend to know either way about the hollow Moon or hollow Earth theories, but it's not the "hollow Moon" part that I find ridiculous, it's the "alien mind-control beams" and "shape-shifting reptilian" stuff that seems quite far-fetched and unproven. He never mentions or expresses any doubt or discontent with NASA's Moon or Mars landing hoaxes or the history of the Jews, but he'll go on for hours about aliens and reptilians? He doesn't say anything about the plethora of evidence that the entire Apollo/Viking programs were hoaxed on Earth, but he will use astronaut testimony and NASA photos to posit alien structures on the Moon!!?? He says nothing about the Jews but writes entire books about reptilians?? And even though he doesn't mention Jews, the establishment ADL writes helpful "hit-pieces" (promotionals) claiming he's anti-semetic, just like they do with Jones.<br /><br />Do you agree that Alex Jones is controlled opposition or do you think he's genuine too?Eric Dubayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11495527904246265068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-18468068460189389002011-12-10T22:03:02.122-08:002011-12-10T22:03:02.122-08:00Hi, Eric.
I don't know, man. I attended one o...Hi, Eric.<br /><br />I don't know, man. I attended one of his shows in New Mexico a few years ago and met him briefly. I got the impression that he believes what he's saying.. and that his life is not an easy one. I mean for someone working for the "Illuminati trillionaires" it seems like he would be better compensated.<br /><br />He's expressed financial issues because of court costs and people trying to sue him and what not.. It just doesn't seem right.. He's working for the Illuminati, but he's hurtin for money and getting paid pennies to speak at events? And he's devoting soooo much time and energy for something he doesn't believe? And facing so much ridicule?? Wow.<br /><br />Anyway, I don't agree with a lot that David Icke says, but it's interesting stuff. And although I believe he slanders a lot of people and makes many baseless accusations based on hearsay.. He does try to point out government abuses and offer alternative news through his website.<br /><br />As far as reptilians.. I don't doubt that there's all kinds of creatures and dimensions of existence. I do doubt that they're possessing the Queen of England during satantic rituals while sacrificing babies.. I could be wrong. As far as the hollow moon theory goes, I don't know. I doubt it. But if I'm open to your hollow earth theory and your stationary earth theory I suppose I should be open to the possibility of a hollow moon too.. Maybe all the planets are hollow with little people hidin' inside!, smile.<br /><br />Peace,<br />DavidDavidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-73470583415832668502011-12-10T20:10:27.622-08:002011-12-10T20:10:27.622-08:00You're right that he's not actively doing ...You're right that he's not actively doing those things, but if David Icke is indeed controlled opposition, which it's clear to me that he is, that means he is working for the very people doing those things you mentioned.Eric Dubayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11495527904246265068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-45060369553355286682011-12-10T15:35:54.451-08:002011-12-10T15:35:54.451-08:00I don't think I've ever seen so many falla...I don't think I've ever seen so many fallacies of logic packed into one 10-minute video in my life.<br /><br />May, I add another? <br /><br />Hitler liked to paint.<br />Hitler was a Nazi.<br />David Icke also likes to paint.<br />Therefore, David Icke is a Nazi!!!!<br /><br />I really don't care if David Icke worships the egyptian trinity or the later hebrew one. I don't care if he performs rituals of Wicca or rituals of the catholic mass(not that different really). I don't care if he prays to greek gods like Apollo or Buddha. Krishna or Jesus, who cares man? I definitely don't care if his wife dances in the rain and prays to the earth or mother nature or even Gaia(oh no!) or whoever.. are you kidding me? Who is that hurting? and what does it have to do with anyone, but her? And so what if she is??? How can we even begin to solve any of the world's problems if this is how people's brains are working? <br /><br />Anyway, what I do care about is if Mr. Icke is actively involved in bombing civilians through wars of aggression, taking away the freedom of fellow citizens and human beings, ruining lives with economic scams legalized through corruption, poisoning people with unnecessary pharmaceuticals just to make a profit, etc. Things like that. Ya dig?<br /><br />DavidDavidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-57816038632222597902011-12-10T13:35:20.017-08:002011-12-10T13:35:20.017-08:00I know L'Oreal & Garnier products suck (an...I know L'Oreal & Garnier products suck (and L'Oreal used to be a big tester of products on animals, but stopped due to pressure), but I didnt know their sordid ties:<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJEqWeHJf0sAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-85074167382218478352011-12-10T10:15:55.630-08:002011-12-10T10:15:55.630-08:00Some Israeli Products right here in the USA!
http...Some Israeli Products right here in the USA!<br /><br />http://www.inminds.com/boycott-israel.php#companiesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-6286885513997813432011-12-08T21:43:17.712-08:002011-12-08T21:43:17.712-08:00Why would Alex Jones want to work with the (Zionis...Why would Alex Jones want to work with the (Zionist) John Birch Society?<br /><br />http://www.erichufschmid.net/TFC/Alex-Jones-summary.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-52440104880539648282011-12-07T22:32:28.932-08:002011-12-07T22:32:28.932-08:00if you choose to follow anyone other than yourself...if you choose to follow anyone other than yourself then don't complain when what they give you isn't what you want.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-7879658714995852452011-12-06T20:40:02.555-08:002011-12-06T20:40:02.555-08:00Thank you as well, you're good at reporting fa...Thank you as well, you're good at reporting fascinating material. Happy to continue to join the discussions.Jesse L Zesbaughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06137024391331984946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-12711709870642973332011-12-06T20:37:35.230-08:002011-12-06T20:37:35.230-08:00Indeed, I'm consistently impressed and in agre...Indeed, I'm consistently impressed and in agreement with your astute analyses. Thanks for regularly sharing your enlightening views with us here!Eric Dubayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11495527904246265068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-33429840250466847922011-12-06T20:03:09.815-08:002011-12-06T20:03:09.815-08:00"Point taken and agreed, but seeing that the ..."Point taken and agreed, but seeing that the Talmud is the holiest of Jewish books, and is full of racist and wildly immoral mandates, would you not agree that if "they themselves do not support" such ideas, that they should not support this racist, immoral religion and should not call themselves Jews!? "<br /><br /> I agree in a sense, but human beings have a way of being more ritualistic, and traditional as opposed to reasonable. I would love to see a world system that adopts reason rather then tradition, and ritual. But for a lot of people I think it boils down to their intellectual limitations. And pride. Both dangerous, if you blindly identify with any given herd, or group, rather then think as an individual. It leave the possibility for adversarial rival systems, and all the nastiness of human nature to pour out.<br /><br /> Don't mistake me as disagreeing, but in terms of progress, I don't think we have the leisure of pure reason to work with. We would have Utopia very quickly if that were true.<br /><br /> We have the option of being frustrated with the way things are, or working with it in some fashion to improve things.<br /><br /> If you're lucky enough to have a very reasonable mind, it may infer a responsibility towards those that do not, that is not adversarial in nature, more that of a guide and protector. Until such a time as all humans become reasonable, rather then ritualistic.<br /><br /> It is frustrating to see people destroy one another for their own stubburn lack of illumnation. I think stupidity transcends all groups, nationalities and religions, as does reason, and altruism.<br /><br /> Again these are simply opinions and interpritations.<br /><br /> Fascinating conversation Eric.Jesse L Zesbaughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06137024391331984946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-43743354411715069262011-12-06T19:26:29.151-08:002011-12-06T19:26:29.151-08:00More great points Baron and Anonymous!
I think ...More great points Baron and Anonymous! <br /><br /><i>I think you would find many jewish people who disagree with that, even though it's written. It is agreed to be very dark. I will admit you have some points about the contents of the text, but it does not convince me about the actual character of the majority of the people. Which I think creates the danger I'm taking about in people seeking to maintain a family tradition in a modern world, could be condemned for a text that they themselves do not support.</i><br /><br />Point taken and agreed, but seeing that the Talmud is the holiest of Jewish books, and is full of racist and wildly immoral mandates, would you not agree that if "they themselves do not support" such ideas, that they should not support this racist, immoral religion and should not call themselves Jews!? <br /><br />That's like me supporting Charles Manson, I go to Manson fan-club meetings, I identify myself as a Mansonite, but when someone says, "hey, you know, he murdered a lot of people," I just say, "oh, I don't support THAT! I just identify myself with him and go to his fan-club meetings." <br /><br />If Jews don't support the racist, immoral ideologies in their holy books, then they should not call themselves Jews. If they do support such ideologies, then the condemnation is warranted. They can't have it both ways, and I'd argue the ones who pretend they can are just lying to us stupid Goyim.Eric Dubayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11495527904246265068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-60766554567499607602011-12-06T19:17:58.737-08:002011-12-06T19:17:58.737-08:00Hmmm?<a href="http://spreadingtheword-now.blogspot.com/2011/12/first-they-ridicule-you-first.html" rel="nofollow">Hmmm?</a>Big Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15228210750484725153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-32855134690515293612011-12-06T18:53:07.924-08:002011-12-06T18:53:07.924-08:00It sounds like the Talmud is saying that Goyims ar...It sounds like the Talmud is saying that Goyims are indeed human with their choice of words such as:<br /><br />"if the Goyim 'knew'" so Goyims can think and reason with the idea that someone is trying to kill them, and so would take action because of this reasoning.<br /><br />and "'murdering' Goyim is like killing a wild animal", where murder is reserved for people--which distinguishes them from animals. Why not just say "killing Goyims is like killing a wild animal".<br /><br />Other than that, the Talmud is just pure sick & twisted to commit sexual perversion upon a child, and specifying a girl child--and her age, specifically "three years".<br /><br />It really shows their twisted outlook and irrational reasoning that they can do anything they wish without regards or concern for any other person if they are not Jewish (but from accounts of Jews, there is discrimination amongst members too). Which means, if there is discrimination amongst them, they classify certain Jews to be "lesser" Jews. <br /><br />THEN at what point is it OK to do these Talmudic teachings to the lesser Jews?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-53578523688611816712011-12-06T17:25:10.526-08:002011-12-06T17:25:10.526-08:00For further understanding the idea of jewish peopl...For further understanding the idea of jewish people carrying on family traditions should be understood like the american holiday of thanksgiving. It could be looked at that all americans are celebrating the beginning of a massive genocide. (disgusting treatment of turkeys aside, focusing on native populations) However if you looked at the individuals, you would find they don't see it that way. To them it's a yearly family gathering, and the other meaning is lost, they are not reaffirming the need for genocide by the holiday, even though that linage is there. It's just blind tradition. I would argue those text in the jewish tradition may hold a similar light, I'm not excluding the other possibility though.Jesse L Zesbaughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06137024391331984946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-90380574316384129182011-12-06T17:15:49.997-08:002011-12-06T17:15:49.997-08:00Eric,
I think you have some good and dark stuff...Eric,<br /><br /> I think you have some good and dark stuff, and clearly they have a written dark history, I would wonder how many modern people of the jewish faith agree with that. I think every group has its dark past, and I'm sure you can find people in that group who identify with that stuff. But I think you can find those that don't which creates the danger I'm talking about.<br /><br /> You could make similar arguments about is lams(life of the prophet book), and we see radicles amongst them as well as moderates. I think we end up finding people that can be pushed over the edge by that kind of religious material, that may fall in to the range of psychopaths. I think you would find many jewish people who disagree with that, even though it's written. It is agreed to be very dark. I will admit you have some points about the contents of the text, but it does not convince me about the actual character of the majority of the people. Which I think creates the danger I'm taking about in people seeking to maintain a family tradition in a modern world, could be condemned for a text that they themselves do not support. That is why I point to the danger of indintifying with groups, rather then individuals. Identifying with "groups" is intellectual convenient for us. But only offers a distorted view.<br /><br /> I think conversations with some rabbis would be profitable in settling this. Of course the potential for misdirection is possible in such a conversation.<br /><br /> Many religions and nationalities go to great lengths to prove they are the best and can down on others, part of the success of any meme, is being Holier then thou.<br /><br />For the next part which was the first, again it's making a group every individual is different, lumping the negates those individual circumstances. It makes them easy to hate, and I think taps in to our lower nature to do that. If individuals are cursed with those issues, it may not be something we can fix per say, but I would suggest although difficult we not condemn others for their nature, which you are asserting may be beyond their control. This is not to say mix them in, but treat them according to how their condition requires with the highest degree of humanity possible. It is a thing of pity, not hate, to me. I think even with the temptation to group them in this way, each individual would prove slightly different, enough to warrant sub catagories at the very least. It is not an easy question, but one of deep thought the baron would suggest.<br /><br /> Interested to hear your thoughts, I think we are trading on the flaws of modern languages at this point, and some of the hidden assumptions they contain.Jesse L Zesbaughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06137024391331984946noreply@blogger.com