tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post3266746700071887434..comments2024-03-07T10:02:32.188-08:00Comments on The Atlantean Conspiracy: The Meat MythEric Dubayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11495527904246265068noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-25009006866787517442021-02-08T17:56:05.931-08:002021-02-08T17:56:05.931-08:00Jainism, the oldest religion in the world (it pred...Jainism, the oldest religion in the world (it predates Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Judaism, Islam, and Christianity) says in it's scriptures (shastra-agamas) that all humans used to be raw vegan fruitarians in the golden age called the Utsarpini. Jain cosmology is similar to Hindu cosmology (and likely what the Hindu cosmology was originally based on, since Jainism existed before Hinduism), in Hinduism there are multiple ages in a cycle of time starting with the is the Kali-Yuga/dark age and Satya-Yuga/golden age with and in Jainism it's called Avarsarpini/Utsarpini since the Jain scriptures are written in Prakrit mostly and Hindu ones mostly in Sanskrit.<br /><br />A sect of Jainism called Digambara Terapanthi Jains asserts that humans have always been designed to eat raw fruit and uncooked food, however, due to the demonic influence of the Kali Yuga/Avasarpini, people have forgotten this ancient knowledge about health.<br /><br />Hinduism is a religion that requires it's followers to be vegetarian, Jainism also requires it's followers to be vegetarian, but in addition to this the scriptures recommends abstaining from all food which are not of plant origin for health benefits and. Some Jains even go so far as to not eat root vegetables because Jain believe that plants have souls as well, so Jains would prefer to take only part of a living plant for food, rather than killing an an entire plant by uprooting it. The Term "Jain Vegetarian" can mean either vegan, or a vegan who does not even eat root vegetables so as not to kill whole plants, that is how strictly non-violent some of the Jains are.<br /><br />However, since most Jains are people from rural India who have been impoverished by the British raping and pillaging of India, they are vegetarian and do eat root vegetables, even though the Jain scriptures say that people should Ideally be vegan or fruitarian without eating root vegetables, it's just not practical for most Jains.<br /><br />In the book "A Comparative Study of Jainism and Buddhism" by Sital Prasad, you can see a comparison of the Jain and Buddhist scriptures which also shows that Buddhism used to be a vegan/fruitarian religion as well. <br /><br />Buddhist scriptures also state that there have been multiple Buddhas in past time-cycles, this is the same as Jain doctrine which says that there are multiple Tirthankaras, Buddhas and Tirthankaras are different names for the same deities. The Buddha was taught from linage of monk-disciples stemming from 23rd Tirthankara Parshvanath, and lived during the time of 24th Tirthankara Mahavir. The Jain Scripture called "triṣaṣṭiśalākāpuruṣa", the lives of 63 illustrious people, also says that Krishna was a cousin of 22nd Tirthankara Neminath, and that Krishna became a Jain monk later in his life.<br /><br />Jainism says that there are 24 Tirthankaras per time cycles, with roughly 250 years between each Tirthankara. 250x24 =6,000. Judaism, Christianity and Islam all claim that the Earth was created 6,000 years ago. And Since Hinduism and Buddhism also have common roots with Jainism, this means that all major World religion somewhat agree on this historical Chronology, the world is periodically created and destroyed following a particular pattern.<br /><br />The Historical Chronology compiled by Russian Mathematician Anatoly Fomenko also confirms the Jain cosmology theory about time cycles.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-27260217275508408022020-10-18T12:30:17.051-07:002020-10-18T12:30:17.051-07:00I just spent almost 2 hours reading. Lots of passi...I just spent almost 2 hours reading. Lots of passion here as well as conflicting information. I'm not a big meat eater, mostly fruit since we have a lot fresh around here (Oahu) I think the truth in all this is somewhere between. Bless you all<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-50764928999827331052016-07-23T15:42:53.516-07:002016-07-23T15:42:53.516-07:00Wow the comments here are atrocious. Exposing, or ...Wow the comments here are atrocious. Exposing, or having an opinion opposite to the meat industry is hardly fanatical... if anyone reads this comment before making such a statement, please consider the view point in which you are speaking out against before resorting to ad hominems and comparing to people such as Alex Jones. Have you ever heard the quite that a truly intelligent man will entertain a thought, and that doesn't mean he has to believe in it. Before commenting about how inferior animals are, perhaps you first should consider that yes, animals, and the earth, are in a sense inferior, but wouldn't that be the reason we are responsible for taking care of them? So many people have adopted such a 'dominant' mind set towards the world and everything in it, when true dominance is assuming responsibility and caring for it. Please think about these things and ask yourself why you have such an aggressive, war like outlook on things. Have a great day!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10823434909010983536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-70256050831532028712016-03-25T18:42:46.449-07:002016-03-25T18:42:46.449-07:00"the first man-killer was a vegetarian accord..."the first man-killer was a vegetarian according to the bible."<br /><br /> Bible genesis is a distortion/corruption of Jainism. In the original story its Cain(Bharata) who creates a caste of animal sacrificers (the brahmin rishis - abrahmanic farishees). In the original story Abel(Bahubali) doesn't die, but he abdicates his kingdom and becomes a Siddha(Seth).<br /><br /> <br /><br /><br /><br />EnmanuelPhoenixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06620079308456093882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-5864406771967397162015-07-22T18:05:27.349-07:002015-07-22T18:05:27.349-07:00* BUMP * from Anon, the gnostic media videos in sp...* BUMP * from Anon, the gnostic media videos in specific I was talking about were 'vitamin K2 and the calcium paradox' and the two videos with Dave Asprey; also on red ice creations there is one about western price foundation - there is also a summation of the sorts of things these videos discuss in this article. I look forward to your response very much; considering the great work you've done on other things, I'd really like to reconcile the disparity in information I've come across. Is killing animals for their meat to obtain optimum health not just using the darkness within you, which is surely there in equal measure with the light? If all nature is one, and it all eats and subsists itself off of itself, then isn't it quite perfect to kill animals? like yin and yang, all things in balance and moderation, non? I can imagine you're very busy but if you have time to check those videos out I would be interested to hear your rebuttals. I'm beginning to think that if killing for meat gives optimum health but accumulates karma, then going vegan is like 'opting out', gradually reducing your being until it is as pure as prana itself.<br />Regards, PhilipAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-14764292666440593782015-04-03T15:41:15.009-07:002015-04-03T15:41:15.009-07:00Hey Eric, I wonder if you've seen any of the g...Hey Eric, I wonder if you've seen any of the guests Jan Irvin has had on his youtube GnosticMedia channel, the basic gist I got from those was that animal fat is more stable than flax or such for the cell walls of our body? And I guess backed up by the long history of european culture of success from animal fats, and I think I remember that bone structure degredates (sp?) after a generation or so without animal fats. I understand that we have more possibility and option to NOT use animals to source the vitamins and everything we need, but after watching those videos I mentioned I have gone back to including fish and meat in my diet, focusing on grass fed / wild caught as an essential, as I was too skinny while I was trending more towards veganism, which I've been trying for maybe 2 years. I can concede that as a student I don't have the time to dedicate to properly source a balanced vegan diet, as I feel most food out there (in the city) is just poison, and I would much sooner go hungry than eat most of what is on offer - but I wonder If you had thoughts specifically about the stability of the fats, animal vs plant based, thanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-23556645652783617152013-04-07T01:14:12.990-07:002013-04-07T01:14:12.990-07:00Hey Eric ,
Check out this why I don't eat mea...Hey Eric ,<br /><br />Check out this why I don't eat meat ?<br /><br />http://agniveer.com/why-i-dont-eat-meat/<br />Carryminatihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00532020231518369615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-88091137713852540402013-02-18T13:06:10.290-08:002013-02-18T13:06:10.290-08:00Wow, this must be the biggest misconception /delus...Wow, this must be the biggest misconception /delusion of all time: that humans, for countless eons, have been slaughtering and consuming the meat of animals without realising that such an act is cruel, needless and immoral. I sincerely ask you: if everyone were to stop eating meat, how would the world be benefited?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-39969157305983297732012-11-21T10:43:19.349-08:002012-11-21T10:43:19.349-08:00vegans will win. certain animal industry in my are...vegans will win. certain animal industry in my area like dairy farm are becoming less and less. less people buy animal products and it will continue so in time... E.N.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-6066519715965466952012-08-21T06:38:17.757-07:002012-08-21T06:38:17.757-07:00as crazy as it might sound to you I value both the...<i>as crazy as it might sound to you I value both the life of the carrot and the cow, equally.</i><br /><br />Thank you for showing me the light of egalitarian eating! Life is life, and I see now that I was being prejudiced against carrots! Now that I know you value all life equally, I've decided I want to eat your family for dinner. That's right, carrots, cows, and humans are all equal and now, thanks to your enlightened teachings, I'm going to become a cannibal, and start by eating your family. I hope you don't mind, as that would be quite hypocritical.<br /><br /><i>Life is merely energy when you "kill" something you are just releasing that energy, whether it be a carrot or a cow.</i><br /><br />Yeah, exactly, don't worry when I eat your family because when I "kill" them I'm actually just releasing their life energy... "Releasing their energy" sounds a lot better than murder doesn't it?<br /><br /><i>also, we are fully within our rights to kill a human fetus</i><br /><br />Killing humans is "fully within our rights." Wow, cool, so you definitely won't mind my Dan family buffet.<br /><br /><i>Namaste</i><br /><br />LOL. Save your empty spiritual sign-offs for your steak dinner.Eric Dubayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11495527904246265068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-76306844886609890892012-08-18T20:59:45.990-07:002012-08-18T20:59:45.990-07:00Now, to give context to this I must explain, I eat...Now, to give context to this I must explain, I eat very little meat, all the food I consume is local and organic, I have personally inspected the farm I get my meat from, and I am thankful every day of the life that is sacrificed so I can live, and as crazy as it might sound to you I value both the life of the carrot and the cow, equally.<br /><br />Life is merely energy when you "kill" something you are just releasing that energy, whether it be a carrot or a cow.<br /><br />I am perfectly aware of the structural differences between a cow and a carrot, I am referring to the taking of their life, which both have.<br /><br />also, we are fully within our rights to kill a human fetus which has a brain, mouth and nervous system, but killing a cow is wrong?<br /><br />Either you respect life as a whole and be a responsible consumer of the natural world, or you disregard all life and do with it as you please, how convenient a world we live in that lets us pick and choose what life we deem righteous to destroy and what life we deem worthy of our compassion, remember it is all those evil meat eaters that constructed a system that allows you to have that choice in the first place.<br /><br /><br />If you could pass Tolstoy's message on to the other animals that cause suffering and prolonged deaths to other animals, it would be greatly appreciated, but alas, you more than most, considering the theme of your blog would understand war has very little to do with life and death in the grand scheme of things, its just a tool, usually to gain control or power, and if you truly believe a slaughterhouse is what stands in the way of peace and understanding, than allot of the posts on this sight would be irrelevant.<br /><br /><br />"To think it isn't far safer than flesh-eating is ignorant" <br /><br />I don't, and as I explained in my previous post, If life was about doing the healthiest or safest things, you would be preaching a far different sermon, In fact you probably wouldn't be anywhere near a computer having this discussion with me.<br /><br /><br /><br />Namaste<br />DanDgossehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03501376552161853152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-27266867140906644142012-08-18T04:24:14.656-07:002012-08-18T04:24:14.656-07:00to survive you will have to KILL a carrot or cow o...<i>to survive you will have to KILL a carrot or cow or something that has life to sustain your own.</i><br /><br />The fact that you don't see the difference between killing cows and carrots is disturbing. In case you didn't notice, carrots don't have nervous systems, brains, mouths to scream, tears to cry, feet to run away, or mother's to grieve. <br /><br /><i>to think a vegetarian diet is safe from chemicals and parasites would just be ignorant.</i><br /><br />To think it isn't far safer than flesh-eating is ignorant.<br /><br /><i>Lastly, The day we can feed the world and stop killing our own species, we can then worry about converting everyone to vegetarianism.</i><br /><br />I see it the other way around. So did Tolstoy: "As long as their are slaughterhouses, there will be battlefields." ~Leo TolstoyEric Dubayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11495527904246265068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-91177003717295390992012-08-17T19:01:48.516-07:002012-08-17T19:01:48.516-07:00Wow, so much of the same propaganda taken strait o...Wow, so much of the same propaganda taken strait out of the vegetarian bible.<br /><br />Why do vegetarians always put so much emphasis on life expectancy?<br /><br />If I never leave my property and breath purified bottled air and never used a computer or watched TV or drank anything other than water then I would have a "statistical" chance of living longer ... or rather just existing longer.<br /><br />If you want to compare yourself to a gorilla I am ecstatic for you, go into the jungle naked with none of your possessions and live like the primates, I fortunately understand and appreciate the immense gift of humanity I was given.<br /><br />Don't get me wrong, we are supposed to be responsible for the planet and its many beautiful creatures, but if eating animal products was wrong I would assume eating any living thing would be, but we must live off organic matter, it's an unfortunate side effect to life, and yes to survive you will have to KILL a carrot or cow or something that has life to sustain your own.<br /><br />Just as our fruits and vegetables have lost an immense amount of nutrients through over cropping in thousands of years, so has our meat, and to think a vegetarian diet is safe from chemicals and parasites would just be ignorant.<br /><br />BTW.. the few times a year I have steak, I have it practically rare, no salt pepper or seasoning...bloody delicious!!!<br /><br />Lastly, The day we can feed the world and stop killing our own species, we can than worry about converting everyone to vegetarianism.<br /><br /><br /><br />Thank you for hearing my more than likely condescending and aggressive rant, I did have some bacon today.<br /><br />;)<br /><br />Namaste<br />DanDgossehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03501376552161853152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-32591625095172069392012-08-12T18:43:35.945-07:002012-08-12T18:43:35.945-07:00You're absolutely right Kieran. Flesh-eating ...You're absolutely right Kieran. Flesh-eating is an addiction with withdrawal symptoms on par with cigarette or alcohol addiction!Eric Dubayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11495527904246265068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-43432016764876404652012-08-12T12:37:01.696-07:002012-08-12T12:37:01.696-07:00unfortunately meat eating is an addiction which is...unfortunately meat eating is an addiction which is not recognized as such by today's society so no institutions can treat it. But the uric acid in meat is trioxypurine which is more addictive than caffeine which is dioxypurine.<br /><br />It is as pointless to wean a meat eater from this habit as it is to wean a smoker away from smoking by facts, rationalization, scientific, physiological proof etc. Both require serious medication and de-addiction guidance groups like Alcoholics Anonymous<br /><br />Unfortunately there is nothing for meat eaters yetAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17892915422541002255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-61966065939264890322012-05-16T17:38:40.533-07:002012-05-16T17:38:40.533-07:00There are innumerable health benefits of eating me...<i>There are innumerable health benefits of eating meat, to say, for example, it serves as a fabulous source of high quality proteins, <b>which a single vegetarian food is not able to provide</b></i><br /><br />Bullshit, there is more protein in spinach than steak, get your facts straight. Besides the only protein deficient people on the planet are malnourished and starving. There isn't even a medical term for protein deficiency because to have one you'd have to be starving yourself. Animal protein is not "a fabulous source of high quality protein." It is the lowest quality source filled with toxic chemicals, adrenaline, hormones, cholesterol, and parasites. <br /><br />There is also more iron in beans and leafy green vegetables than in meat, so that's more bullshit from you.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/iron.htm" rel="nofollow">Iron in the Vegan Diet</a><br /><br />And nuts/beans provide vegans plenty of phosphorous, that is not even an issue. Again, you're talking out your ass and claiming this shit that comes out is truth.<br /><br />Americans eat more animal protein than anyone on the planet and 39% of the population is B12 deficient. Back to the drawing board on that one too. <br /><br />Please enlighten us about the spiritual benefits of murdering animals and eating their flesh. I'd like to hear that one.Eric Dubayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11495527904246265068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-5618845628671768332012-05-16T15:35:52.916-07:002012-05-16T15:35:52.916-07:00There are innumerable health benefits of eating me...There are innumerable health benefits of eating meat, to say, for example, it serves as a fabulous source of high quality proteins, which a single vegetarian food is not able to provide. It contains all the essential amino acids that the body requires. <br /><br />The red meat contains very high quantities of iron, when compared with plant origin foods. 100 grams of Liver contains 6000 mcgm of iron as against 325 mcgm in 100-gram carrots. Read further to explore information about the advantages of eating meat…<br /><br />The phosphorus content present in meat gets much more easily absorbed than that present in cereals and legumes. This is owing to the fact that cereals and legumes contain phosphorus, usually in the form of phytic acid that must be hydrolyzed before absorption. Meat also serves as the main source for the intake of vitamin B12. <br /><br />You can't deny the benefits of meat or egg or milk . this are just Physical benefits , there are even more spiritual benefits of eating meat and drinking milkJJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-66121152493306105952012-05-14T19:44:57.234-07:002012-05-14T19:44:57.234-07:00So i went in and ate the bloodiest Steak . OH god ...<i>So i went in and ate the bloodiest Steak . OH god how delicious was that Steak</i><br /><br />Boasting about your vampiric lust for blood is a bit disturbing. A cow's flesh and blood is the property of that cow... murdering that free, beautiful creature to turn into your bloody steak simply because you like the taste is embarrassing, not something to boast about.<br /><br />The human body does not need or thrive on animal products. All necessary nutrients we need are found in greater abundance and more bio-available in the plant kingdom.Eric Dubayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11495527904246265068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-61195875272016996842012-05-12T13:00:32.125-07:002012-05-12T13:00:32.125-07:00I was Vegan for a month or so . It sucks man , wel...I was Vegan for a month or so . It sucks man , well for me it sucked , then one day when i was walking towards my house , i saw a resturant with a steak . So i went in and ate the bloodiest Steak . OH god how delicious was that Steak . By the way eric you talk about NWO , masons e.t.c... while you are the victim of illuminati brainwashing yourself . The fact that you are comparing humans to animal is enought to tell that you are brainwashed . I am not saying that you Should eat meat 3 times a day , But quitting is also bad . Atleat eat once in a week .it is ok . And Please don't give me example which degrades humans . <br />God has made earth and all its living things for the humans . We are borned for a purpose , this doesnot means we start destroying the planet . I hope you understand eric . All this things are created for US , the humans . We never evovled , we never were fucking monkey or apes and we never ever will evolve into somthing . We are borned for a purpose . As Jeses Said "Life is a Bridge , don't build anything on it , Just pass it ".JDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-50967742092364254892012-04-18T02:36:32.902-07:002012-04-18T02:36:32.902-07:00Love the site with all the interesting information...Love the site with all the interesting information you provide. For the meat eaters, like some animal species do go eat your own kind and then come back and criticise my friend Eric.<br /><br />Better still dont come back to his site!The vegenibalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-69098377239338681962012-04-09T20:06:03.546-07:002012-04-09T20:06:03.546-07:00Thanks for the comment Xeni. I saw Hungry for Cha...Thanks for the comment Xeni. I saw Hungry for Change and thought it was a decent introduction to eating whole foods, but it paled in comparison to the documentaries <a href="http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2012/01/worlds-1-killer-eating.html" rel="nofollow">"Eating"</a> and <a href="http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2011/10/forks-over-knives-whole-food-plant.html" rel="nofollow">"Forks Over Knives"</a> for several reasons. They never once specifically mention veganism and skirt the meat/dairy issue instead of tackling it head on like the others. Instead they focus almost exclusively on demonizing refined sugar, which is fine, except that many of the "health food gurus" on there like Mike Adams, David Wolfe, and Dr. Mercola all sell supplements with refined sugars on their websites. They don't get into the China study or any research being done on plant-based nutrition and Mike Adams even promoted raw meat at one point. Overall I'd say it was a good film, but not nearly as informative or conclusive as some others.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbfRxEFxvOk" rel="nofollow">Durian Rider's Hungry for Change Review</a>Eric Dubayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11495527904246265068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-4734545404221056792012-04-09T06:47:43.252-07:002012-04-09T06:47:43.252-07:00Hey there!
I just got linked to your article and ...Hey there!<br /><br />I just got linked to your article and it was extremely interesting. Did you hear of the movie released last march called Hungry for Change? Sounds like something up your ally. :) <br /><br />Enjoy!XeniZondichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12959364791185544525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-15892391024134992382012-04-04T18:22:54.104-07:002012-04-04T18:22:54.104-07:00Wah. I'm sorry that you don't like me but...Wah. I'm sorry that you don't like me but won't go away. That must be difficult for you. And by the way, that's the definition of an antagonist. I may be harsh and reactionary, but you're the antagonist, dumb dumb.Eric Dubayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11495527904246265068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-27572238399665439322012-04-04T09:39:04.821-07:002012-04-04T09:39:04.821-07:00animals that dont run from humans are happy.
it ...animals that dont run from humans are happy.<br /><br /> it is a shame you have such an antagonistic attitude.it doesnt do you any favours.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-35063050872997660172012-04-03T18:18:46.735-07:002012-04-03T18:18:46.735-07:00the animals i eat lead happy lives
Hahahahaha, &q...<i>the animals i eat lead happy lives</i><br /><br />Hahahahaha, "happy." <br /><br />"Man is the only animal that can remain on friendly terms with the victims he intends to eat until he eats them" ~Samuel Butler<br /><br /><i>anything the government pushes has a negative consequence of some kind and i will not eat too many vegetables because of this</i><br /><br />Hahahahaha, let's hope the government doesn't tell you to breath or you're fucked. <br /><br /><i><br />perhaps they cause people to misunderstand constructive critisicm and lash out</i><br /><br />Hahahahaha, stop, please, I ate a big salad last night and now I can't stop lashing out at constructive criticism. It's the damn gooberment vegables I tell ya!<br /><br /><i>i have said nothing about africa and fail to see why you would quote someone else,unless you had got mixed up over who had written what.</i><br /><br />Sorry, it's tough to differentiate the trolls :P You all sound the same.Eric Dubayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11495527904246265068noreply@blogger.com