Comments on The Atlantean Conspiracy: Max Igan - Total Criminalization

You are a liar and have lied to me many times pret...

2012-02-05T16:49:43.989-08:00

You are a liar and have lied to me many times pretending to be different people and coming back to agree with yourself. You have registered with 4 (that I know of) different personas, some male, some female, some young, some old, all in order to come back to the same threads, pretending to be someone else who shares the same views. Of course as you and I both know, you always log in from the same IP address so I'm always able to out you, but you just continue unphased like the pathological liar that you are.

All the accusations I've made against you are true and you know it, but still you try to hide behind "Eric's propaganda machine" as if I'm maliciously targeting you. You're the one who won't leave me alone, constantly emailing, facebooking, and commenting me under various aliases. I'm not trying to target you, I want you to go away and get a life. The forum and the comments section are approval only because of you! What a pest you are. For those of you new to Xinyu, have a look at the following... unbelievable:

Read the Comments Section Here

This perfectly encapsulates his nihilistic, ath...

2012-02-05T11:12:10.985-08:00
This perfectly encapsulates his nihilistic, atheistic, pessimistic worldview.

Firstly, you got some things misinterpreted and construed to your own liking (which I have to say is very dishonest and patronizing of you):

It is true that I am nihilist, but not in the sense that you are using it. I am only divorcing humanity because it is an insane asylum, and I didn't create this world, nor do I have the obligation to participate in the illusion. If you want to participate in, perpetuate it with more illusory knowledge, faith, dogma, doctrine, and false hope...go ahead.

Secondly, I am not an, "atheist." Just because I do not believe in God, it does not mean I believe in the scientific intellectual nonsense either. I am not on anyone's, "side." That is cabalism right there - the need to pick between an illusion of good and evil which are both non-existent.

Lastly, cynicism is not pessimism, hopelessness or despair. I have told you so many times already that I am a cynic, and the above - but you keep on flipping it to suit your own worldview. Don't do that - it is rude, and not only that - it is deceitful to your readers.

If you want to criticize me, don't put up random straw men, and attack a perspective that you have little appreciation or sympathy for.

Perhaps I came to accept this worldview because of my life experiences...does it make it wrong, or right? No, but it suits me, and that is all that matters.

I am merely pointing out that if you realize the world is an illusion, then you don't need to save it, because like a dream, you'll have to sooner or later wake up from it. Am I right?

I am not, "lying" to myself to the above Anonymous. Yeah, you may think I am - but have you ever met me? Or are you just swallowing in Eric's propaganda machine launched against me for months now?

"Anonymous" Xinyu, it's time to stop...

2012-02-05T06:17:56.763-08:00
"Anonymous" Xinyu, it's time to stop lying to yourself.

Perfectly worded. This mindset comes from a fear ...

2012-02-05T05:31:04.713-08:00
Perfectly worded. This mindset comes from a fear of facing reality. Yes, the material world is ultimately an illusion, but it's as real as it gets.

Doing nothing is shirking responsibility. It's...

2012-02-05T05:22:23.772-08:00
Doing nothing is shirking responsibility. It's participating in your own slavery and the slavery of your children, your own murder and the murder of countless others. It's the consent of silence. It's an excuse, a masquerade of superior what? wisdom, insight? When all that is behind it is fear. The fear of really facing reality. Guess what. This is not a movie. There's no comforting yourself that it's all fiction. This is as real as it gets.

"Anonymous" Xinyu, who insists the 3D wo...

2012-02-04T23:27:26.788-08:00
"Anonymous" Xinyu, who insists the 3D world and humanity is an illusion is the same Xinyu (I have your IP address) who said a few months ago:

The world is fucked, and the people (no matter which side you pick) are fucked beyond belief. I find it personally exciting to see humans fuck up, and I hope it always gets worse. The life of this world deserves to be sucked away, because - unless you believe in it - it is a whole load of bullshit.

This perfectly encapsulates his nihilistic, atheistic, pessimistic worldview. He constantly harps on me that I should "do nothing" not even meditate because all such action keeps me locked in the illusion. Meanwhile he's spent the past 2+ years on here, my email, my facebook, non-stop pleading with me to "do nothing." When I point out that his persistent pestering me certainly isn't "doing nothing" he basks in his hypocrisy and comes back tomorrow to do it all over again.

Non-noun writes: "So, I ask again - why save...

2012-02-04T20:44:13.775-08:00
Non-noun writes:

"So, I ask again - why save an illusion with your life?"

You claim that the "the entire 3D world is an illusion...." I don't agree, but, hypothetically I'll accept your argument. Thus your question can be restated, "why save an illusion with an illusion?" To which I would answer, if all is illusion, then why not?

According to Krishna, the role of man on this e...

2012-02-04T20:29:13.633-08:00
According to Krishna, the role of man on this earth is to endure his lot, and to act in accordance with his place and destiny during his lifetime.

That is assuming that there is indeed a, "Krishna" being, and that while yes, life and death are both equally illusions in our rather numbing existence...why should you, or I be obliged to sacrifice our lives in a pointless endeavor that will never come to pass?

You'll only believe this Krishna-voodoo stuff if you actually consider yourself to be a, "warrior." Since I don't believe in Krishna, or god or Satan/Lucifer/Science, etc, nor the warrior-ethic, I am irresponsible for this mess, and will not engage in a fruitless non-existent battle of good-versus-evil; and therefore I am divorcing humanity, and the fate of humanity is not my responsibility as humanity is also an illusion.

So you've come to the opposite conclusion of K...

2012-02-04T19:10:14.240-08:00
So you've come to the opposite conclusion of Krishna/Arjuna on the battle-field? Their logic makes far more sense to me.

The above Anonymous apparently forgot the second p...

2012-02-04T12:18:43.231-08:00
The above Anonymous apparently forgot the second part of my last paragraph - that the entire 3D world is an illusion anyways.

So, I ask again - why save an illusion with your life? Is it really worth it? Trying to save something that does not exist, and that is only the consequence of smoke-and-mirrors magic sounds counterproductive.

Again, I am a cynic, and a nihilist in the sense that I am, as George Carlin famously said, "divorcing humanity" whenever that happens.

The only way to get out of the dream world is not save it.

What I hope you can understand from this exchan...

2012-02-04T04:50:09.752-08:00
What I hope you can understand from this exchange of ideas is that to fight to the death for your freedoms is not worth it

It may not be worth for you, but don't make a judgement for others - let themselves to judge it for themselves.

Thanks for everyone who joined the discussion even...

2012-02-04T04:48:51.457-08:00
Thanks for everyone who joined the discussion even though it's depressing.

The solution is never going to happen at one (e.g. with a revolution), because it took them so long to come to this level of deception, control, etc from their part and unawareness, fearfulness, selfishness, etc from our part.

It is not actually two groups of people opposite of each other. It's more like majority of people serving the system enslaving the humanity unknowingly (because of their unawareness, apathy, close-mindedness) or knowingly (because of their selfishness, fear, helplessness).

If there is going to be a solution it is going to be slow (slower than how long it took them to create the system (it meant to be done underground the potential slaves to slave themselves. Willing participants selfishness, unwillingness to accept the other person is better, complacency didn't/doesn't help them either).

The solution is going to be in our mind, which is strong enough to replicate it to the outside. Mind you that everything can be counted including the mind. Mind develops our Will. How we construct our mind will determine our Wills, consequently our lives.

I will leave you to make a judgement upon your mind. But the question I ask is this: are you ready to risk your money, life comforts, relationships and ultimately our life TO FOLLOW YOUR CONSCIENCE OR WILL?

If not, you (including myself) still need o develop ourselves intellectually and spritually. You may ask why do we need to come to that state of conscience. You won't understand why unless you arrive to that level either intellectually or spiritually.

Most of us are saying: "We can do nothing about the system, so why even try?". We need to see the bigger picture than our short lives just like what They did when they put the plans in. If the plan were to profit individuals, it would have never accomplished. I'm touching the subject of intergenerational beings, which you may or may not believe, so I'll stop here.

We can't judge the possibility to win the battle from our life's point of view which is too short. Every human being is born with only positive attitudes, but is given a Will to choose the good or the bad.

When we are kids our families have a big influence on us, but later on it's up to us what to do and what not to. The ones who haven't been brainwashed enough have a chance to learn the truth (if they wish to). If we are lucky, then we HAVE TO continue our journey to reach the level of consciousness which will free us both internally and externally.

We may or may not reach that level ourselves, but surely can instil the mindset into our children who in turn will have a BIGGER chance of reaching that level. When enough amount of people than have reached that level at the same time (doesn't need to be the majority), the system will crush when it can't sustain itself because there won't be enough unaware participants to sustain it.

It may happen much earlier if there is going to be a major clash - people not fearful of death in order to become free are way stronger than the one who is doing what he is doing to earn money, etc.

What I wrote above is very similar to what's happening in the world right now only if you are not aware that all of those revolutions had been planned long ago and have being executed with the help of ordinary people who really think they are the winners and will reach freedom. Most of them have no idea that they are being organised and led by the same people who have put those dictators in place and kept them there. The only result from all this will only be more and even tighter control which will eventually lead to the slaves loving their servitude.

Whatever happens should happen naturally rather than by design. And this will take longer than most people expect.

All of us has a battle to win over their own lives, minds and conscience.

This topic does interest me I suppose because we&#...

2012-02-04T03:06:59.871-08:00
This topic does interest me I suppose because we're all being exposed to the growing fascist police state on a daily basis and frequently encountering the INjustice of the system.

It brings to mind a quote - "Criminality is often a natural reaction to an unnatural situation", though I'm not sure who said it!

With the exception of a tiny minority we're all (criminals included), victims of the unbalanced system, of the monetary system and the lack that is thrust upon us from the day we are born.

In other words, my books, websites, radio shows an...

2012-02-03T19:15:51.294-08:00
In other words, my books, websites, radio shows and various other forms of activism have had absolutely no positive effect on people. Is this what you're saying?

Seeing the world in terms of positive/negative is ...

2012-02-03T12:58:01.469-08:00
Seeing the world in terms of positive/negative is one of the biggest problems in the first place. It is polarizes the world, antagonizes people, creates animosity, division, confusion, and endless suffering and pain.

Nobody is trying to belittle you, patronize you, or gang up on you Eric. Nobody has said that they are against YOU. None of us are.

What I hope you can understand from this exchange of ideas is that to fight to the death for your freedoms is not worth it, because how do you plan on making the illusory 3D matrix better if you already know it does not exist in the first place?

Here is a challenge Eric: When you and your girlf...

2012-02-03T12:26:29.463-08:00
Here is a challenge Eric:

When you and your girlfriend start having kids, propagate into your kids the same mentality that you have - that the world can be fixed.

Then, when you have grown into a slender old man in your 90s, come back and tell us if your kids or their kids have managed to, "fix" the world up in any shape way or form. Do not bullshit me the results.

I think you know the answer already.

Yeah I agree Non-noun. We are having an awesome ...

2012-02-03T08:20:28.290-08:00
Yeah I agree Non-noun.

We are having an awesome exchange here. People come from different backgrounds and have a different understanding of things and it's great. Very healthy and eye opening...

I'm loving this blog!

Keep it up Eric!

ok, this is your blog bro, i don't want to ste...

2012-02-03T07:35:06.874-08:00
ok, this is your blog bro, i don't want to step on any toes so i wont post anymore.

but, i don't know who xinyu is nor am i trying to double-team you with negativity nor am i attempting to patronize you.

there is a chart that describes the development of great nations.
it seems pretty accurate of current history and can probably be used on a global scale.

Bondage to Spiritual Faith;
Spiritual Faith to Courage;
Courage to Freedom;
Freedom to Abundance;
Abundance to Selfishness;
Selfishness to Complacency;
Complacency to Apathy;
Apathy to Fear;
Fear to Dependency;
Dependency to Bondage

my line of thinking is this:

if we (humans) aren't ALL free, then NONE of us are really free.

you stated that you have a "great life", me too. i am very fortunate, i have a great family, loving wife, a few real friends, and 2 cool dogs. my energy is not that negative despite what you read here.

but bro, half of our brethren, globally, are being "soft killed" through abject poverty and economic slavery. thats alot of negative energy.

then "they" also make the "fortunate" humans unwitting participants in their slavery based consumerist economy.

humans with money feed on the energy of humans with less money. all consumer products come from slave labor made from resources that have been stolen.

there is no equitable exchange amongst us, we are feeding off of each other. (globally)

that bothers me alot.

maybe your right, maybe i do have more negative energy than i realized, but i will hang on to it.

maybe a combination of pos/neg energy might do the trick. lol

Non-noun writes: This is an interesting conversat...

2012-02-03T01:21:28.949-08:00
Non-noun writes:

This is an interesting conversation you fellas are having. Important. Hear each other. There's no harm in listening and understanding.

For my part, I'm reminded that not so long ago people were able to live in largely self-suffiecient human-scale communities. They knew how to farm, and how to build a barn, and a house, and a church, and furniture, how to make clothes, and all manner of folk remedies to heal themselves and each other. Skills that are now almost lost.

How could they do those things? How did they know? The knowledge was in the community, it was their way of life, their culture.

Here we are, seemingly stuck in a increasingly psychopathic culture. We are under attack in all manner of ways. But the solutions are not mysterious, and not beyond us. Every journey is made of small steps — that's a wise old saying.

To reach a destination it helps to have a map, but without a map it helps to have principles that can guide you. A route is just a sequence, turn here, turn there. The sequence is simple and perhaps I should explain it. But right here I'll just say it's not so difficult.

And a culture, well that's just a pattern, a more complex sequence. A pattern is not so difficult to construct.

The violence, the tearing down of the present dominant system, will happen naturally, the result of establishing new healthy ways of living our lives.

And the pessimism, the idea that we are lost — that just comes from not knowing the route. Once you have a route, or at least the principles that can guide you, then each step is seen as it really is, a part of the journey, progress.

I guess I should write more, but I don't know how to explain it well. Too many threads running in my head. But there's no need to feel defeated, or frustrated. Just travel in the right direction. it will work.

That was more directed at "Anonymous" Xi...

2012-02-02T23:05:38.638-08:00
That was more directed at "Anonymous" Xinyu, than you NVRA. But still, your patronizing question of "do I honestly think I'm a free human being" irked me. Yes, I honestly know that I'm a free human being, and I will fight to the death anyone who attempts to kill or enslave me. You and Xinyu's double-team defeatist diatribe only convinced me of how much stronger I have to be to pick up your slack. And yes, the negativity radiating from you two is annoying at best.

lol, sorry to be boring the shit out of ya. wow...

2012-02-02T22:18:18.354-08:00
lol, sorry to be boring the shit out of ya.
wow, that was a bit rude considering i have been totally polite but whatever.

discussions with differing opinions are lame anyway. lol

I don't only think it, I know I am a free huma...

2012-02-02T21:09:35.523-08:00
I don't only think it, I know I am a free human being just like everyone else. Just because they've created a slave system doesn't mean I'm a slave. Just because they've built a prison planet, doesn't mean I'm a prisoner. An amputee can learn to use their stump, get a prosthetic, or learn to use other parts of their body more effectively. Again, hate to sound new agey, but your negative vibes are boring the shit out of me and just make me laugh and roll my eyes. I have a great life and I will fight to the death to maintain my freedom if/when that moment comes. Until then I remain free just as I was created.

"Things don't change because its never be...

2012-02-02T20:54:25.795-08:00
"Things don't change because its never been approached properly. People talk, they like to think that it's been attempted already..but it's hasn't."

that is quite a presumptuous statement. how do you know all of the various ways that the attempt of human liberation has been approached in the past?

how is it that you have the insight to know what has/ has not been attempted through out history?
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"Were all caught up in this movie like scenario......large numbers with violence. Thats not it!!!!"

we are between a rock and hard place on this one.

"they" are psychopaths

psychopaths can not be reasoned with, will not change through compassion or love or passive resistance or , etc...

psychopaths will always do what psychopaths have always done. evil!
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"Like Eric said, the change has to be you.... Overcome looking at the world with the defeatist mindset. Overcome hate and resentment."

generally these are valid views in our HUMAN experience except we are dealing with "they", and "they" are psychopaths. it is impossible to
"overcome hate and resentment" of a species that has committed a voluminous amount of atrocities against humanity.

you still seem to think you are a free human being.

you are not. none of us are.
that deserves a bit of "hate and resentment".
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"The challenge is breaking our programmed thought habits and behavior. But you're aware now, so you work towards getting better. It's about today. Be the best today..Grab your sacks, and man up!!"

very valid and very corny, lol. i agree with the "after school special" theme you expressed, except those type of positive ripples spreading out very far are very inconsistent. kinda like praying.

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@Eric

"The word that proves your pessimistic, defeatist mindset is "irreparable." We got ourselves into this mess, we can get ourselves out."

i ask again, can an amputee with an optimistic, positive energy mindset repair his/her missing limb with this energy?

if no, would this make them pessimistic and defeatist?

im not sure how you come to the conclusion: "we got ourselves into this mess"

"they" have been around for a long time.

global human bondage didn't just happen on our watch.

we were born slaves. our parents were born slaves, their parents were born slaves, etc............

do you honestly think you are a free human being?

The word that proves your pessimistic, defeatist m...

2012-02-02T19:22:11.503-08:00
The word that proves your pessimistic, defeatist mindset is "irreparable." We got ourselves into this mess, we can get ourselves out. Our situation is most certainly NOT irreparable. As for your defeatist attitude, I'm not sure if that's repairable or not.

It is rather hasty of the above, "Anonymous&q...

2012-02-02T17:49:45.725-08:00
It is rather hasty of the above, "Anonymous" to assume that somehow those of us who do not want to resist or for that matter do anything whatsoever to fix up the world are, "scared" in any way. At least I know I am not afraid of the events that are transpiring throughout the world.

The above Anonymous implies the same argument of, "vibrations" and a ripple-effect that should, or would somehow effect everyone eventually. The problem is that it is another feel-good solution to a world that is un-repairable and hopeless in fixing.

As far as I can agree with the above Anonymous is that, yes, we need to change ourselves. However, I must point out that I am not being, "defeatist." I am merely pointing out the reality of our irreparable situation.

I agree that we need to change ourselves, but not for the same reasons that Anonymous is suggesting.

Maybe our, "realistic" comments may or may not be programmed into us, but nevertheless, I do not believe in resistance, and the concept of a global revolution that will somehow, miraculously give us peace on earth.