tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post646386692071445519..comments2024-03-07T10:02:32.188-08:00Comments on The Atlantean Conspiracy: The Christian Crusades and InquisitionEric Dubayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11495527904246265068noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-9140298192968856032013-04-12T07:47:57.088-07:002013-04-12T07:47:57.088-07:00Hi,
how is it that still now and then the Holohoa...Hi,<br /><br />how is it that still now and then the Holohoax slips in here and there ?<br /><br />Please people dont fuel the myths that contributed to so much hardships for a lot of people since dawn.<br /><br />Do we need money, politics and Mc Religion ? For what ? Who benefits ?Is the world a nice place today ? Is there a better way ?<br /><br />Is it time to promote peaceful coexistence without the Force factor regardless who claims the right to rule others ?<br /><br />Live well.<br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-78656649760427699052013-04-11T17:18:14.015-07:002013-04-11T17:18:14.015-07:00Am I the only one who is getting tired of hearing ...Am I the only one who is getting tired of hearing the anonymous who keeps on claiming that Catholics are not "true Christians?"<br /><br />For the record, this anonymous still has yet to prove "sin" is real. <br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17660314582500668518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-1875386546427535592013-04-11T08:43:37.753-07:002013-04-11T08:43:37.753-07:00You know something that always bothered me about r...You know something that always bothered me about religion in America? You grow up with the thoughts that it is great to share, and it's good to give and all this and that. Then when you get older, you mature, you become an adult you realize it's all bullshit. <br /><br />All that 'don't be greedy' look at the churches, and how rich they are. This always bothered me. The catholic church especially, you have the damn Pope who makes it well known how rich and wealthy he is, yet you read the bible and it's all love your neighbor, help the poor, don't be greedy, have love for one another, don't you think they should at least practice this at the very least? It's not Jesus is king, and he was great for being poor and showing the way, this is what they tell you growing up, but when you grow up you realize Jesus isn't their king. No one church has a Pope who thinks he's god, and their king is money. Money is their god, and it's the only thing they really care about. <br /><br />The crusades show just how blood thirsty they were. No different to when they took over America and used religion as an excuse to go on a mass genocide killing spree and nearly wipe out the entire American Native Indians race. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-34421794561781883802013-04-11T06:12:33.761-07:002013-04-11T06:12:33.761-07:00You exposed catholicism, not Christians. Catholic...You exposed catholicism, not Christians. Catholicism is not Christian. Catholicism is a war cult of unbiblical lies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-90782200426350569392011-05-22T21:09:30.701-07:002011-05-22T21:09:30.701-07:00hi eric,
how are you!
You are really writing a lo...hi eric,<br /><br />how are you!<br />You are really writing a lot of different topics, good work, especially about the role of the church in history. There have been so many injuries in the name of the church and so many people (millions) were killed.<br /><br />I have a question to you: Could you put some prayers on your blog within the right subject, for example where you have written something about occult or magic themes?<br /><br />If you do not want this, no problem, then I must make/create my own page. I would like to have a honest answer. Thanks a lot. I do not want that you are getting in trouble with this as the prayers have a big effect especially for people who want to get free of everything devilish!<br /><br />1.)I renounce Satan, the evil and devil now and I trust you, Jesus Christ, as my Lord with help of God father. Thanks, Amen.<br /><br />2.)In the name of Jesus Christ I brake all magics and curses backwards to Adam and Eve and I order now all demons, Satan, evil and devil out of me in the name of Jesus Christ. Yes, with help of God father. Thanks, Amen.<br /><br />3.)In the name of Jesus Christ I brake and untie all vows, promises, oaths, slips of the tongues and blood brotherhoods backwards to Adam and Eve and I now trust you, Jesus Christ, as my Lord. Thanks, Amen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-52118190085123326012011-05-20T19:07:55.002-07:002011-05-20T19:07:55.002-07:00I may also add that the implications are that all ...I may also add that the implications are that all religion is Luciferianism...including Vegan, and all the schools of meditation out there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-60058070839941278622011-05-20T19:06:43.692-07:002011-05-20T19:06:43.692-07:00From a certain POV, Christianity is Luciferianism....From a certain POV, Christianity is Luciferianism. <br /><br />CHRIST = LUCIFER = 74 via Simple English Gematria where A=1, B=2, C=3...Z=26.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-19525163406071227802011-05-20T01:57:15.379-07:002011-05-20T01:57:15.379-07:00Hey Aldo, thanks for the message. I just watched ...Hey Aldo, thanks for the message. I just watched that documentary and enjoyed and agreed with it for the most part. It began to lose me when it equated meditation, yoga, and vegetarianism with Luciferianism. That is a bit much. Just because I don't eat meat, stretch daily, and take time to sit quietly by myself doesn't mean I'm a New Ager, Luciferian, anti-Christian or anything else the movie implied. I also disagree that the supposed fruition of a few very vague prophecies (Greece, Rome, Alexander the Great) are grounds to believe that every word in the Bible comes from God (an assertion made in the film). What about all the scriptures left out of the Bible? What about other texts considered Holy around the world? And why is God a one hit wonder? Why hasn't he written another best-seller in 2000 years? <br /><br /><i>Sooner or later I would like you to understand the differences between TRUE Christianity and the fraud which all laymen incorrectly conclude is synonymous with Christianity.. which actually is...and history shows..the "Babylonian Vatican and the Roman Catholic Religion...which are an absolute extension of the Mystery Schools and their teachings! I know you are familiar with these thoughts...but still...you continue to intimately link Satanism/New Age/Mystery Schools and Christianity together. They are not the same!</i><br /><br />I think you're absolutely right that the "Babylonian Vatican and the Roman Catholic Religion" are very different from true Christianity. Why do you say that I link "Satanism/New Age/Mystery Schools and Christianity together?" Thanks for the link and comment. PeaceEric Dubayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11495527904246265068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-54193455968681024322011-05-19T17:42:02.085-07:002011-05-19T17:42:02.085-07:00Eric-
I last posted you about your incorrect conc...Eric-<br /><br />I last posted you about your incorrect conclusion regarding "magic mushrooms" to be the Manna as presented in the Bible.....and I gave you a video to watch about the Terfezia AKA "the desert truffle."<br /><br />I would really like your thoughts on this NEW fantastic video I have linked to you. This is one of the best that I have seen. it's titled:<br />"THE POWER BEHIND THE NEW WORLD ORDER."<br />Seen Here: <br />http://vimeo.com/21573581<br /><br />Sooner or later I would like you to understand the differences between TRUE Christianity and the fraud which all laymen incorrectly conclude is synonymous with Christianity.. which actually is...and history shows..the "Babylonian Vatican and the Roman Catholic Religion...which are an absolute extension of the Mystery Schools and their teachings! I know you are familiar with these thoughts...but still...you continue to intimately link Satanism/New Age/Mystery Schools and Christianity together. They are not the same!<br />You are very smart and have helped me a great deal on the NWO...but you are failing me on this critical issue over and over again.<br />Let me know your thoughts...please.. and<br />let the truth be known...<br /> -AldoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-42760314170979602622011-05-17T07:48:49.035-07:002011-05-17T07:48:49.035-07:00Does Tao not believe that eating will satiate his ...Does Tao not believe that eating will satiate his hunger? Does he not believe that moving his legs in a certain way will cause him to move forward? Does he not believe that I am wrong about several things?<br /><br />These are all beliefs, whether correct or incorrect. Let's not try to couch things in mystical language to confuse reality. Of course he believes things, as we all do. There are (hopefully) things that he is not sure about, as there are things that we are all unsure about, but that does not mean that any of us do not have beliefs.<br /><br />Many scientists have spent a great deal of time trying to discern the Sun; rather than going blind, however, they have actually found a great many answers about its nature (and plenty of new questions, of course). Certainly we have progressed quite far from believing a chariot draws it across the sky!<br /><br />I do agree, though, that philosophy often does not provide answers, but rather illuminates the proper questions. Was it Socrates who was called by the Oracle the wisest man alive, not because he knew more than other men, but because he knew how much he did not know? Note, however, that this did not in the least cause him to stop seeking answers!Bennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-22145248138046682222011-05-16T20:58:30.759-07:002011-05-16T20:58:30.759-07:00Tao doesn't actually believe anything. He simp...Tao doesn't actually believe anything. He simply embraces what is. He's hungry, he must eat. <br /><br />When a man keeps trying to discern the sun, he loses his sight.<br /><br />Men without sight trying to discern an elephant in the dark cannot but comprehend a fraction of its nature.<br /><br />How is it after staring at logic and the greatness of the universe anyone can see anything anymore at all?<br /><br />I have heard that philosophy does not provide answers but, rather, clarifies the questions. Indeed, any class of philosophy I have entered or talk I have heard never claims to provide answers. If reason and rationality was enough to provide humanity with adequate answers then we would probably have the answer by now. But like those feeling an elephant in the dark we all claim to know the answer, to know the truth, but we never get any closer to peace, or harmony. It is like Spock said, "logic is the beginning of wisdom".N-Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05493850000160656225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-28956213510413541962011-05-16T11:09:08.775-07:002011-05-16T11:09:08.775-07:00It is clear that the god of love is the god of dea...It is clear that the god of love is the god of death and terror...how such a loving god can be sadistic and still be worshipped by many is beyond me...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-738073647253658282008-12-31T14:35:00.000-08:002008-12-31T14:35:00.000-08:00Isn't it wierd how people can be coerced into beli...Isn't it wierd how people can be coerced into believing practically anything? I'm against the mindless following of religion myself, but see many of these arguments as following a concept equally as mindlessly. Ben will have no greater chance of getting people here to think about the root of thier ideas than he would have trying to get the old religious lady to think how it was possible for Jesus to literally walk on water.<BR/><BR/>Each has thier own BELIEF, which is not necessarily based on reason.The Capitalisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09410365285434448835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-75127684371185366542008-12-30T15:15:00.000-08:002008-12-30T15:15:00.000-08:00Enjoy your break Tao. I am not really sure what y...Enjoy your break Tao. I am not really sure what you are responding to here. What does quantum mechanics have to do with any of the questions we have raised here? This is a fall back used by an ever growing number of people, "because quantum mechanics is weird the universe is irrational." This is patently false because that which is irrational could not be understood by reason. What really happened when we started studying quantum physics is that reality stopped behaving in a way that we expected. So we developed a new theory to deal with it. <BR/><BR/>Theory = Understandable = Rational<BR/><BR/>I also have problems with many of the things which you have brought up. They are profound questions, but if you don't believe that the world is rational, then I don't know how you have developed opinions relating to them.<BR/><BR/>As I said, enjoy your time on the lake. I will do the same. <BR/><BR/>Eric, thank you for providing an interesting conversation!Torqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02187892279807810160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-24818832878928990722008-12-26T20:13:00.000-08:002008-12-26T20:13:00.000-08:00A computer follows (normally) rational rules, ones...A computer follows (normally) rational rules, ones set by man. So "Post" will (normally) Post. <BR/><BR/>Delete, I have tried, is more reliable as it does not depend on the internet. <BR/><BR/>Mans insistence that the world obey and act in a way he can understand measures and builds to that model. Good design is seen as simplicity. The static mind shapes that man lays over the world, the net of his imagination, 3 dimensions, straight lines, set units of measure have no part in nature. Straight only exists until you get close enough to see the wobble or spins or waves. <BR/><BR/>I see also a problem in the notion of "people in a world as separate to them". When truer is that the universe acts, man is part of the action, like a standing wave or whirlpool he has no fixed self but appears to be a thing. A snowflake, appearing unique is a part of the water table, for that moment in time he maybe unique but is part of the stream. <BR/><BR/>If one thing is irrational (lets take quantum physics) and that is a part of the whole, then the whole can not be rational. <BR/><BR/>But, yes I do see the futility in this talk. I find greater pleasure away from explanation so will again be away for some time.Ta-Wanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01123753659706310015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-61344064806719392712008-12-24T23:26:00.000-08:002008-12-24T23:26:00.000-08:00I believe you are mistaking Torq's point.If the un...I believe you are mistaking Torq's point.<BR/><BR/>If the universe is irrational, then there is no point in you eating, because you don't know if it will satisfy your hunger or not. There is no point in you walking, because you don't know if it will get you places or not. When posting your responses, you may as well press "delete" as "post" to achieve the desired end. The fact that you do things like eat, walk, and press "post" indicates that you do understand that the universe is rational, as all people do, whether they admit it or not. I do not know how to convince you of this with words; it is evident in every minute of every day, and there is nothing I could possibly say that would be more convincing than the world itself is.<BR/><BR/>I am not using organised religion to argue against you. Never have, and probably never will. I am using the precepts of reason, which are far more fundamental than any religion. It is not Christianity that proves you wrong, it is the underlying rationality of existence that is present in all things. Your denial of this is, quite simply, delusional. You may say whatever you like; the fact that you press "post" instead of "delete" proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that you know that the universe follows rational laws. Why you persist in pretending that you don't, I haven't the slightest clue.Mr. Mandalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09518488952683034334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-47404257404032590732008-12-24T20:04:00.000-08:002008-12-24T20:04:00.000-08:00I am being asked to throw away my life and stop ea...I am being asked to throw away my life and stop eating because .. erm .. wow, too odd. <BR/><BR/>Being happy, feeling the truth is somehow secondary to being able to *think* you understand? Again, too odd. <BR/><BR/>My stand it this, no one will know the whole truth. To take that a religion can give you one, and then fight for that, be at the whims of the ways of that, is much madder and much further from happiness than I would wish on anyone, yet is the way of the large large majority of humanity. Including those arguing the case my way is wrong. <BR/><BR/>Putting faith in an institution, man made of course, is, and can be none other than a cop out on the biggest question of life. <BR/><BR/>You will end the game with "FAIL: return to start." <BR/><BR/>My reckoning after taking the path of discovery, obviously reading a lot broader than most, is that If you're happy, you're right. Life as we know it is illusionary conceived, every element from belief to "fact" as we see only phenomena of the One Nomena. You wont and will never know the Nomena. If you look hard enough at some photons at home, do you expect to learn about tungsten and glass in a semi vacuum? If you look hard enough at an image on your PC screen do you expect to learn about the semi-conductive ways of silicon and binary? <BR/><BR/>I bask in the beauty and wonder of every moment and because I can not rationalise that or put it in words, I am told that I my life has no meaning and must end.<BR/><BR/>Well no, it makes no sense in relation to organised religion GOOD, that makes it even better. <BR/><BR/>I will go out to the lake and be amazed, in years to come, you may see my point.Ta-Wanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01123753659706310015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-71398848623093175822008-12-24T13:02:00.000-08:002008-12-24T13:02:00.000-08:00Just as there was a "myth" of Hitler and the Nazis...Just as there was a "myth" of Hitler and the Nazis, there was a "myth" of Pope Innocent and the Crusaders. I do not intend to demonstrate that the Church has never been led astray; everyone and everything has been led astray. I only intend to demonstrate that condemning the Church for that being led astray is pure hypocrisy.<BR/><BR/>As I understand it, the modern Church has renounced the atrocities of the Inquisition. Go ask the current Pope if he thinks the Inquisition or the Crusades were the right thing to do. Modern Christians, on the whole, do not think they should kill non-believers, just as modern Germans, on the whole, do not believe they should kill Jews. As I have said before, it is very dangerous to condemn the son for the sins of the father - in the Church's case, the great-great-great-great-grandfather.<BR/><BR/>I read the Pope's words. He did not "demonize" people who are gay. He said "it is not an outdated metaphysics, if the Church speaks of the nature of the human being as man and woman and asks that this order of creation be respected."<BR/><BR/>In my experience with the Church, there is in fact very little "demonizing" that occurs. Homosexuals are viewed as living a sinful lifestyle. So are hedonists, prostitutes, thiefs, adulterers, etc, etc. There is no demonizing; everyone sins. The Church has been emphasizing that homosexuality is a sin, not demonizing those who commit it.<BR/><BR/>Every parent has been forced to tell their child that something they did was wrong. That is a far cry from demonizing them.<BR/><BR/>If you like, you may disagree with the Church on whether homosexuality is a sin, or bad, or whatever word you like. But do not attack it with rhetoric designed to paint it in a bad light. It is simply not true.Mr. Mandalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09518488952683034334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-14516550051321604652008-12-24T11:39:00.000-08:002008-12-24T11:39:00.000-08:00Great exploration of history of Christianity, Eric...Great exploration of history of Christianity, Eric<BR/><BR/>From your quotes from The Dark Side of Christian History:<BR/><BR/>"“The dark side of Christian history has been and continues to be about the domination and control of spirituality and human freedom. Orthodox Christians built an organization that from its inception encouraged not freedom and self-determination, but obedience and conformity."<BR/><BR/>Say it all. They 'view'ed nature as fallen, thus any ecstatic participation within the fathomless dimensions of nature was/is considered 'demonic'. Because the 'Prince of Darkness' was supposed to be in control of fallen nature, till the '2nd coming' would sort 'old nick' out<BR/><BR/>Another poster keeps using an anaology with Germany. As in WHY don't we blame 'Germany' for the Holocaust. I would anser that the rise of Nazism, and its sadism derived not from abstract 'Germany' but from the MYTH of Hitler and the Nazis. A big part being the myth of the ubermensch (superman), and 'pure blood' etc etc etc. It s such as that--MYTHS which fuel actions, and so it did and still does with the Christian myth<BR/><BR/>Take how I began with that quite. Spiritual suppression. That means people being allowed. ADULTS being allowed to pick and eat enthogenic vegetation for spiritual purposes. Guess what, like then, all those hundreds of years ago it is prohibited! And even in what was supposed to be last liberal place where people had this freedom, Holland/Amsterdam at the beginning of December sacred/magic mushrooms were banned from being sold!<BR/><BR/>The Pope has just made his Christmas speech demonizing people who are Gay!<BR/><BR/>What has changed?<BR/><BR/>Nothing.<BR/><BR/>Look at the world the state it is in. LOOK! What has changed?<BR/><BR/>Nothing because many people are still clinging, and having imposed on them by cultural institutions these absurd myths. And unresolved/not understood they also go un~conscious and effect secular practices<BR/><BR/>So it is very important indeed to see through these myths for what they are, and not be apologists for them.muzuzuzushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03662316983453845369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-19568595742032555012008-12-24T09:08:00.000-08:002008-12-24T09:08:00.000-08:00"I am very happy in my knowledge that life is unkn..."I am very happy in my knowledge that life is unknowable."<BR/><BR/>If life is unknowable, then you can't know anything about it - including the fact that it's unknowable. <BR/><BR/>If you know something about it - anything at all - then it is knowable. <BR/><BR/>Your position defeats itself.Mr. Mandalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09518488952683034334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-75540780421625117202008-12-24T06:05:00.000-08:002008-12-24T06:05:00.000-08:00*chuckles* I need to get a better internet connec...*chuckles* I need to get a better internet connection! I do think this conversation has been pretty hopping as well.<BR/><BR/>Tao, if you contend that the world makes no sense and the only values which are important are the ones which we "feel" than you have lost the ability to disagree with Ben or myself. You "feel" such and such, and I "feel" something different. Your feeling is no more or less valid than my own, it's a feeling! I understand that you have "felt" the urge to have this conversation, but as you do not believe that the world is understandable I will not expect you to explain yourself.<BR/><BR/>As I mentioned earlier you obviously do not actually practice your philosophy. If you did, why would you eat? The world is irrational so there is no actual point to doing so. You just have your "feelings" which are ultimately just the byproduct of your upbringing, conditioning, and the biological impulses of your body. <BR/><BR/>I fear Tao, that you are ultimately the same person who Eric is trying to awaken here. Think about it, if you are willing to engage in rationality for just a moment. If everyone believed as you do, than the NWO (I neither affirm nor deny the actual existence of the conspiracy here) would have a much easier job on it's hands. It just has to make people feel happy (drugs and conditioning should easily do the trick) and not even bother convincing them that something is actually right. The NWO would be able to take over easily and the whole "Brave New World" scenario would be foolproof.Torqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02187892279807810160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-4303049525299801252008-12-24T02:39:00.000-08:002008-12-24T02:39:00.000-08:00Imagine if science said the meaning of life were "...Imagine if science said the meaning of life were "8.2*Phi" (or insert another answer of your choice). <BR/><BR/>and that up until that point the mystic was happy and the scientist busy with measurements and calculations. <BR/><BR/>Now continuing past that point; the mystic is still happy and the scientist has a moment of brief happiness. - Until he says "erm, now what?". <BR/><BR/>Imagine telling Grandma "hey the meaning of life is 8.2*Phi!!" She may be less than impressed. "look son, i was having a nice cup of tea and watching the birds." <BR/><BR/>I feel the debate has gone full circle. I was delighted with the comment that Ben Holsapple said <I>"I am forced to draw the conclusion that you do not have a rational reason for your beliefs at all, but presumably merely "feel" that they are true."</I> This is wonderful and true, merely was an odd choice of words as it is great not mere. I am very happy in my knowledge that life is unknowable. I feel happy, complete, light on my feet. Life is hubagubalubaloooo. I couldn't put it in words or give you an equation, but I can display my smile, delight, awe, and peaceful face to the world. Yes I feel it, I know there can be complete peace as if people drop their prejudices they will see that "WOW this is incredible! I draw in air I carry fuel."<BR/><BR/>Now retrace the debate, in reverse. You find it gets very surreal as you go back up the track, reversing the debate, more and more concepts enter the pool. As I felt I ended with no fixed concept and completeness, we end (start) the debate with many. Ben standing up for institutionalised thought is the start of our debate yet about half way around the circle. "<I>Institutions are a human construct and so cannot be intrinsically evil any more than a gun can be intrinsically evil</I>" Previous to that is one of the institutions in question Christianity. A bunch of people (probably Paul) stating in "fact" what a mystic before them had said. <BR/><BR/>Before it got written as fact that mystic in question would probably have said, "well guys, it's tough to get this on paper as such, but you know, chill out, be nice, don't confuse your grandma." Forwards again from that came institutionalisation of that thought, arguments over interpretation, and as documented by Eric much that would have embarrassed today's birthday boy. From there .. well scroll up..Ta-Wanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01123753659706310015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-58235661299911221372008-12-24T01:42:00.000-08:002008-12-24T01:42:00.000-08:00The Bibble<A HREF="http://www.wittypedia.com/The_Bibble" REL="nofollow">The Bibble</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-6364409297202573682008-12-23T19:34:00.000-08:002008-12-23T19:34:00.000-08:00Wow, great discussion everyone! I'm really enjoyi...Wow, great discussion everyone! I'm really enjoying the mind-expanding debate taking place here. I agree with everything Tao says, but I'm very impressed and interested in Torq and brother Holsapple's points as well. Thanks for the lively, thought-provoking arguments. Peace<BR/><BR/>~EricEric Dubayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11495527904246265068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6187812747707644707.post-4549450341880068492008-12-23T18:59:00.000-08:002008-12-23T18:59:00.000-08:00Well then yes, this is where we differ. I am a sc...Well then yes, this is where we differ. I am a scientist; I believe the universe is inherently knowable and rational.<BR/><BR/>I do not understand how you can either be happy without a desire to be right, or have opinions at all in a world that you perceive to be inherently irrational. Frankly, I don't know how you can even function as a human being without "believing" in rationality. Our reason is the essential difference between man and beast.<BR/><BR/>But, again, if you do not accept rationality as valid, and you would rather be happy than find truth, then there is no point to continuing this discussion. We have completely different goals.Mr. Mandalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09518488952683034334noreply@blogger.com