Monday, April 2, 2012

Astrotheology (part 1)

“Many have heard of Astrology and Astronomy. But few there are in the west today that have heard of their parent subject - Astro-Theology. We insist that this is not by chance.” -Michael Tsarion, “Astrotheology and Sidereal Mythology”

“Official history has been changed to hide the fact that the world has been controlled by the same interbreeding tribe for thousands of years. This is never more so than with the major religions. They all have inner and outer levels of knowledge. The inner level carries the secrets going back to the ancient Mystery schools of places like Sumer, Babylon and Egypt. These include the secrets of the bloodline and only the chosen few are initiated into this awareness. The outer level is where the secrets are hidden in code and allegory and sold, with a deity, to the masses as the 'truth'. The New Testament Gospel stories are based on the initiation ceremonies and esoteric secrets - including astrology and Sun worship - that were performed and communicated in the Mystery schools. But they are presented as a literal story to fool the people. The religions, not least Christianity, Judaism and Islam (all spawned from the same source) are carriers of the secrets (inner) and controllers of the people by hiding the secrets with allegedly 'literal' stories (outer). The same basic 'Jesus' tale of the Son of God who died for humanity was told around the world thousands of years before Christianity.” -David Icke, “Tales from the Time Loop”

There are actually in total 15 pre-Christian Gods who had traits and stories exactly like Jesus Christ. For example, In 900 BC Krishna was born of a virgin with a star in the East signaling his coming. A tyrant slaughtered thousands of infants trying to kill the new born king. He was a teacher in the temple and a healer who performed miracles, was crucified between two thieves and resurrected from death. Around the same time period in Greece lived the God Attis, born of a virgin on December 25th. He was martyred on a crucifix, died for 3 days and was resurrected. Mithra was a Persian God circa 1200 BC who was born of a virgin on December 25th, traveled around with 12 disciples, performed miracles, died for 3 days and was resurrected. He was called the truth, the light, and was worshipped on Sunday. The very same basic storyline that came out of Constantine’s Council of Nicea in 325 AD already existed for thousands of years.

“Christianity resembled certain elements of Roman belief, particularly the worship of Mithra, or Mithraism. As ‘Protector of the Empire,’ Mithra was closely tied to the sun gods, Helios and Apollo. Mithra's birthday on December 25, close to the winter solstice, became Jesus's birthday. Shepherds were to have witnessed Mithra's birth and were to have partaken in a last supper with Mithra before he returned to heaven. Mithra's ascension, correlating to the sun's return to prominence around the spring equinox, became the Christian holiday of Easter. Christians took over a cave-temple dedicated to Mithra in Rome on the Vatican Hill, making it the seat of the Catholic Church. The Mithraic high priest's title, Pater Patrum, soon became the title for the bishop of Rome, Papa or Pope. The fathers of Christianity explained the remarkable similarities of Mithraism as the work of the devil, declaring the much older legends of Mithraism to be an insidious imitation of the one true faith.” -Helen Ellerbe, “The Dark Side of Christian History” (22-3)

“Everything Christians believe about Jesus, the Romans and Persians believed about Mithra. Sunday was the sacred day for Mithraists because he was a Sun God and they called this The Lord’s Day … The writer, H. G. Wells, pointed out that many of the phrases used by Paul for Jesus were the same as those used by the followers of Mithra. The Liturgy of Mithra is the Liturgy of Jesus. When Paul says: ‘They drank from the spiritual rock and that rock was Christ’ (I Corinthians 10:4), he was using exactly the same words found in the scriptures of Mithra. Only the names were changed. In the Gospels, Peter became the Christian ‘rock’ on whom the new church would be built. The Vatican Hill in Rome was said to be sacred to Peter, but this place was also claimed, much earlier, to be sacred to Mithra and many Mithric remains have been found there!” -David Icke, “The Biggest Secret” (108-9)

All the following pre-Christian deities shared the myth of a virgin birth on December 25th, crucifixion and resurrection: Chrishna of Hindostand, Budha Sakia of India, Salivahana of Bermuda, Zulis and Osiris of Egypt, Odin of the Scandinavians, Crite of Chaldea, Zoroaster and Mithra of Persia, Baal and Taut of Phoenecia, Indra of Tibet, Bali of Afghanistan, Jao of Nepal, Wittoba of the Bilingonese, Thammuz of Syria, Atys of Phrygia, Xamolxis of Thrace, Zoar of the Bonzes, Adad of Assyria, Deva Tat and Sammonocadam of Siam, Alcides of Thebes, Mikado of the Sintoos, Beddru of Japan, Hesus, Eros, and Bremrillah of the Druids, Thor of the Gauls, Cadmus of Greece, Hill and Feta of the Mandaites, Gentaut and Quexalcote of Mexico, Universal Monarch of the Sibyls, Ischy of the island of Formosa, Divine Teacher of Plato, Holy One of Xaca, Fohi and Tien of China, Adonis of Greece, Prometheus of Caucasus, and Ixion and Quirinus of Rome. (For more info read: “The World’s Sixteen Crucified Saviors – Christianity Before Christ” by Kersey Graves)

“Were you aware that there were fifteen major religions that had the same identical teachings of Christianity? Most people aren't. And I'm very suspect of a sixteenth religion which is copied off of fifteen previous religions, and I am told that this one is the truth.” -Jordan Maxwell, “Matrix of Power”

“OK, a little quiz. Who am I talking about? He was born to a virgin by immaculate conception through the intervention of a holy spirit. This fulfilled an ancient prophecy. When he was born the ruling tyrant wanted to kill him. His parents had to flee to safety. All male children under the age of two were slain by the ruler as he sought to kill the child. Angels and shepherds were at his birth and he was given gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh. He was worshipped as the savior of men and led a moral and humble life. He performed miracles which included healing the sick, giving sight to the blind, casting out devils and raising the dead. He was put to death on the cross between two thieves. He descended to hell and rose from the dead to ascend back to heaven. Sounds exactly like Jesus doesn’t it? But it’s not. That is how they described the Eastern savior god known as Virishna 1,200 years before Jesus is claimed to have been born.” -David Icke, “The Biggest Secret” (89)


Anonymous said...

excellent as always, thanx eric for always exposing the lie !! i can only add that the persona paul / saul of tarsus STOLE yes the thief stole plato's work .... in acts he told the flawed story of the jesus meeting him on the way to damascus .....and he said that the jesus said " why do you kick against the pricks " hehehe this is the exact manner that PLATO (400yrs prior to this) used ... also the following statement.. "in a glass darkly" = PLATO !!! and the whole "members" story ( the eye ...nose etc.. ) stolen and zooooped up a little by paul ...STOLEN FROM "PLATO's" work ...
and before some christian tells me that i cant say paul is a liar's the definition of plagiarism :
•to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own
•to use (another's production) without crediting the source
•to commit literary theft
•to present as new and original an idea or product derived from an existing source.
BUT sadly this wasnt the only shitty styles of paul ...there are numerous ... liar.. thief.. murderer ... sadly 2 billion christians dont know this simply because they really didnt read their very own bibles .... yes they browse it but read ??? nope and then they base their whole being on something that they dont even know anything about and the only thing they use is their "badly tampered with" book of contradictions ...contradictions so bad that this evil little black book contradicts its self from the very first page right through to the very last page !!!!
it was due time to open their eyes ...more than 100 years ago already ...but all the people who exposed these blatant lies are always discredited and ignored ....SAD BUT TRUE !!!
keep up the excellent work you do are a light in the very dark hoodwinked world !!!

Eric Dubay said...

Thanks Robbie, your site is also shining a light into the dark hoodwinked world. Keep up the great work. Peace for Peace indeed... anyone dining on corpses (meat) or drinking liquid rape (milk) needs to reconsider what world peace actually means.

Anonymous said...

Eric, check out;
I'm pretty sure that the "Zeitgeist" material out there on Christianity has been debunked by many including Chris White above. I'm definately a "truther", but also a Bible Christian. My bias acknowledged, I truly believe the Christian Bible (especially in TANAK order) most comprehensively connects the dots between (ney predicts) the large global scale conspriracy in which we live. The most eye opening modern author that I've come across who has been able to color in the details on the current world power structures is Eric Jon Phelps' in his 750 page work "Vatican Assassins". Here is a more concise summary of his material in interview form;

Are you familiar with this body of work?

Please post this comment so that you & your readers can confirm it's legitimacy or challange it.


Eric Dubay said...

Hey, thanks for the comment. Just look at the number of "dislikes" on that video to see the general consensus of whether Chris White's material is actually "debunking" anything. I've looked deeply into both sides of this as well since my entire family are literalist Christians, and as much as I'd like to drink the kool-aid, it's obvious that Jesus, like the 15+ other savior god-men before him, are all mythological characters. The others like Mithra, Attis, Dionysus, Horus etc. were known to be myths and not literal, historical personages. An exception however has been made for the Vatican ultimate amalgamation god-man, Jesus Christ. The Christian Gnostics left the early Roman church claiming "the fraud of historical Christianity was being set up," and that their Christ could never take human form. But if you want to believe in literal virgin births, literal talking snakes, and literal commandment-giving burning bushes, that's your prerogative. I need a bit more proof than one heavily edited, plagiarized, and mistranslated book from 2000 years ago. Personally, to me, it's obvious that the Bible is metaphorical, symbolic, mythological... not literal and historical.

The Bible - Never Meant to be Literal or Historical

As for Eric Phelps, his book was pretty good and he has some good criticism of Alex Jones, but I've seen lectures where he comes out with some really angry racist comments and his literal belief in the Bible both put me off his work. Peace

Anonymous said...

thanks for the feedback. Yah, I hear where you're coming from, although through the lens of the Hebrew scriptures (not our modern day reorganization and Re-redaction of the "Old testament" in its current form) what has been preserved for us to this day is a very purposeful inclusion of historical events, song, poetry, proverb, narrative, apocalyptic writings etc., all sewn together (by various "inspired Redactors" - Moses & Daniel were at least two of them) point to the coming of a sin attoning/saviour/God/king. like an Anthology of famous books pieced together to create a new larger book transcending the local events in order to highlight a future fullfilling event. The "anti-Christ"/serpent/lucifer/etc. would have wanted nothing more than to muddy the waters in anticipation of the gospel (the power unto salvation) with false gods & false saviors and all the more after his arrival (nostics, Catholosim, LDS, JW, on and on ...) to mislead the masses. Anyways, I'm sure you've heard all this before.

With respect to Phelps..I just came across this info about his possible loyalties;

say it's not so.

it's late. peace

Illuminati Agenda said...

'Astrotheology' - nope, never heard of it ;) Veeery interesting nonetheless, I'll look out for some literature on the topic unless you can recommend any specific books?

Dave said...

This is what I don't understand.. all this secret information that David Icke refers to, for example, isn't even secret. Go to a major bookstore, Amazon, or just the Internet and it's all there. All the esoteric info being used to "control people". Which, I doubt anyway is all available for everyone to read up on and protect yourself from if needed.

I think the the only "black magick" being used against humanity is the marketing, advertising, psychology, nlp, and persuasion techniques that we all know about. All great things that can also be used to manipulate.

Yes, this stuff was occult info centuries ago.. but it's the science of today. And it's not witches and sorcerers using it. It's business people working for corporations. And they don't know a darn thing about "dark arts" or Illuminati. They're paid to part you from your money and deliver more power to their superiors. That's all.

As for Jesus, I think whoever wrote the words of Jesus was an enlightened being. Same with Buddha, Krishna, etc.

So, to me, it doesn't matter what the real name of whoever said those words is; the person who wrote it, said it, or whatever.

In other words, the person who said, wrote, or made up the words of Jesus was a real person and not a myth. And he had some enlightened things to say.

If there was an agenda behind the way the Bible was put together, what was added, what was deleted.. I don't know, but I'm sure there was to some degree.

Surely, the Bible and even some of the words of Jesus have been twisted to cause lots of problems. But overall, the words of "Jesus" were good, in my opinion.


Eric Dubay said...

Good points, thanks for the feedback David and Anon. As for good resources on this subject check out Tim Freke's The Jesus Mysteries, anything by Acharya S, Michael Tsarion has a book called Astrotheology and a great DVD series called Astrotheology and Sidereal Mythology, Jan Irvin's Astrotheology and Shamanism and his other Gnostic Media stuff gets into it a lot, Santos Bonacci has a lot of good info on the subject too.

Anonymous said...

The greatest lie the devil ever told was to make man believe he didn't exist.

Eric, Whilst you have invested a lot of time and energy trying to mock the word of God literally, I will like you to also do an article on who the Devil really is. You tell people about the occult, you mention than the occult is satanic, on the other hand you also bash Christianity thesame way satanists do.

I write this because I want your readers to see what you are all about. You are not motivated by money, but you are an agent for the old religion recycled as new; the New Agers.

Also, you have several posts showing how Dr Ickye is a disinfo agent. But I wonder why you still quote him?

Eric Dubay said...

I will like you to also do an article on who the Devil really is.

I don't know who the devil really is, do you? Please share with us.

You are not motivated by money, but you are an agent for the old religion recycled as new; the New Agers.

I'm not motivated by money, nor am I religious, an agent, or a "new ager." My purpose has always been truth and freedom, to expose the lies and control systems.

Also, you have several posts showing how Dr Ickye is a disinfo agent. But I wonder why you still quote him?

The posts quoting Icke are taken from The Atlantean Conspiracy book published in 2008 before I realized Icke was controlled opposition. Like Alex Jones, 90% of Icke's work is spot-on and the quotes I used are still valid, even if some of his other claims are more questionable.

Anne H said...

Great post… wow, this one is going to take a couple more days to process !

Anonymous said...

Eric, I guess you'll just have to put a disclaimer on Icke / Jones disinfo (mostly truth with a few skews loose) :)

Apparently, the same Anon jerkoff keeps coming back posing the same old questions in your every post.

But, at least it raises your ratings on search engines to have lots of comments !

David said...

I just listened to the two hour video on Astrotheology. It was interesting, but I don't get Michael's fixation on etymology.

Words in one language can sound the same as words in another language and yet have very different meanings. Also, words can evolve in their usage to have very different meanings than they had originally.

So, if I want to I can most definitely use etymology of words to support almost anything. It can't be used a a method of proof.


Anonymous said...

I think my mind had/has/maybe still? HIJACKED: Lots of negativity, "voices" or my "conscious" egging me to do things i know is bad, but i couldnt help it. At the time i thought it was influences and anger at my psycho mother, which may have played a part, but i think i was mind-jacked!

Truth Dealer said...

I realize your whole talk was about Christianity, I'm Muslim and thanks God our religion and our Holy Qur'an is the real divine religion that was saved from Distortion, If you do a careful research about how Jewish scholars, and rabbis infiltrated the Christianity from even the days of Jesus, As Judas claimed Christianity just to distort it later on, the Christianity was pure divine religion cause God wanted to guide us through world of atheist, but the fact that the whole bible was not written by Jesus himself, you will know what I'm talking about, if you know who really wrote bible whom they are "converted Jewish"...So religion like everything twisted intentions have used it to mislead mass....

Erik said...

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